Re: Announcing CML2, a replacement for the kbuild system

From: Brian K. White (
Date: Wed May 24 2000 - 20:12:22 EST

Ed Carp wrote:
> Eric S. Raymond ( writes:
> > You'll like its behavior, then. It wakes up, looks around, says
> > "Can I do X and do I have Tkinter?". If so, it launches the Tk
> > interface (in my version; the one I posted doesn't have this code).
> >
> > If either DISPLAY is unset or Tkinter isn't importable, it then says
> > "Can I do screen graphics and do I have curses?" If so, it launches the curses
> > interface.
> >
> > If TERM is unset or the curses import fails, it falls back to glass-tty mode.
> >
> > Curses or glass-tty mode can be forced with command-line options.
> Can it be compiled so that it doesn't even need the X libraries to even run?
> That would be nice. I don't run X, think it's evil as hell, and love my
> faster-than-a-bat-out-of-hell curses stuff, and would hate to have to butcher
> the hell out of this stuff so that it doesn't look for the X libraries at
> startup...

Where does he say or even imply it needs any X libraries ?

If you have no X, then you are not running X. If you are not running X then
you have no $DISPLAY set. If you are not running X and yet have a $DISPLAY
set, then you have deliberately or ignorantly subverted such a common
standard that neither cml nor any of the hundreds of other programs that
will train-wreck in this environment should be held responsible.

Brian K. White         
filePro BBx  Linux SCO  Prosper/FACTS AutoCAD  #callahans Satriani

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