Re: Soft-Updates for Linux ?

From: Albert D. Cahalan (acahalan@cs.uml.edu)
Date: Mon Oct 02 2000 - 00:03:07 EST


Robert Redelmeier writes:
> Daniel Phillips wrote in part:

>> One thing to keep in mind in all of this is: nobody is testing the
>> reliability of their journalling or any other kind of filesystem just by
>> running it. To test these things you have to crash/interrupt the system
>> *a lot*. Otherwise, you are just fooling yourself and everybody else.
>> How many crashes does it take to find that one little window of
>> vulnerability that comes up every 10,000 crashes normally but suddenly
>> starts coming up every time just because your customer uses their system
>> a different way? You're doing the right thing by crash-testing it, now
>> instead of doing it 5 times do it 1,000 times. Here's one of my
>> favorite tests: unzip a kernel source tree and wait until the disk light
>> goes out. A second or so after it comes on again (kflushd) hit the
>> reset button.
>
> Good idea. I certainly believe in stressing hardware (see .sig),
> but I'm not sure this test is rigorous enough. The problem is
> the reset button is only connected to the CPU and the hard disk
> will probably continue to write out sectors from it's hw buffer.
> OTOH, I don't like the idea of pulling the plug too often. It's
> very hard on the hardware. I'd expect a mechanical disk failure
> before 10,000 cycles.

The nice way to develop this code is with a block device that
discards all writes after a timer goes off.
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