Re: ext3 to include capabilities?

Daniel Taylor (dante@plethora.net)
Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:44:54 -0500 (CDT)


OK, why not do both.

Do ext3 with ACL's, journalling, and other extensions.

Do an ELF header for capabilities.

You would think that we had to _choose_ one or the other.

Dan

On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:

>
> Andreas Siegert writes:
> > Quoting Albert D. Cahalan (acahalan@cs.uml.edu):
>
> >> I'm still waiting for a filesystem-based proposal that works with NFS.
> >
> > Capabilities are there to increase security. Anyone who seriously
> > wants security will not use NFS.
>
> I keep hearing this without a reason. Assuming you filter incoming
> packets and don't allow random insecure machines on your network,
> just how is NFS insecure? You'd have to attack it with some kind of
> multi-machine hard link race condition I think. (but inode generation
> numbers might seal that too)
>
> > Breaking other tools like tar and friends I see as a serious issue,
> > but NFS, never. But when introducing capabilities and ACLs one will
> > need new archival programs that take care of them anyway. Anything
> > that does not support them directly will probably end up as a tool
> > to break them.
>
> With ACLs, stuff does break a bit.
>
> Capabilities are no problem though, as long as you keep them out of
> the filesystem. The executable header method won't break with tar.
>
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