Re: Usenet gateway?

Erik Andersen (
Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:53:38 -0600 (MDT)

Just a thought.
is a complete read-only mailing list archive in html format that
anybody can read. In fact, rather than using USENET and get the
usual barage of "Free XXX picts at ..." rubbish, I have turned
to using the mailing list archives at
I want to browse a list I am not subscribed to. I think others can live
with this approach for read only access, since it works.


Erik B. Andersen   Web: 
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On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:

> > Christoph Lameter writes: > > On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, David S. Miller wrote: > >> From: Christoph Lameter <> > > [quoting reordered because new stuff belongs last] > > >>> I will make that petition drive if we cannot agree even on > >>> this limited less dangerous version than dejanews of making > >>> the content public. > >> > >> Fine, you do what you think is necessary. I will say finally that > >> dejagnus gets the posting at their site before me or anyone else does, > >> I even bypass all of the exploders and make vger deliver directly to > >> their archive machine. > >> > >> I will stop running vger and shut it down, if the petition decides > >> that usenet is necessary. Of course, I will provide the subscription > >> and configuration files for the lists to whoever wants to run it > >> instead. > > > > Please confirm that you really intend to go against what I think is a > > big group of linuxers needs. What you are doing is blackmail. > > > > I would wish you would assert your copyright to these things as > > Alan said. That would be great thing for my petition. What you do > > here flies straight in the face of the goals of the Linux Software. > > > > In that case I think we cannot cooperate any further and I will > > shut down everything I am running for you. > > Whoa people! Grow up! (both of you & others) > > The mailing list is very important, as is an official 1-way gateway. > These do-it-yourself gateways are causing problems. They must go away. > They _will_ go away if an official gateway exists. Isn't vger overloaded? > The "no gateway" policy adds more subscriber load, including people > that only need read-only access. Others give up because the traffic is > too much for normal mail software and people take vacations sometimes. > > Gateway properties include: > > 1. officially approved > 2. vger -> usenet ONLY > 3. destroy email addresses (headers, body...) > 4. no posts on usenet side (moderater is FAQ autoresponder) > 5. remove MIME, PGP, and HTML patch corruption for usenet > 6. support X-Keep-Email: header for those that tolerate spam > 7. enforce read-only nature with automatic cancel > 8. fast, with priority above other exploders > > Are there really any serious objections to that? >