Re: openat(..., AT_UNLINKED) was Re: New copyfile system call -discuss before LSF?

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> >>>>Take a look at how many actively used filesystems out there that have
> >>>>some variant of sillyrename(), and explain what you want to do in those
> >>>>cases.
> >>>Well. Yes, there are non-unix filesystems around. You have to deal
> >>>with silly files on them, and this will not be different.
> >>So this would be a local POSIX filesystem only solution to a problem
> >>that has yet to be formulated?
> >Problem is "clasical create temp file then delete it" is racy. See the
> >archives. That is useful & common operation.
> 
> Which race are you concerned with exactly?
> 
> User wants to test for a file with name "foo.txt"
> 
> * create "foo.txt~" (or whatever)
> * write contents into "foo.txt~"
> * rename "foo.txt~" to "foo.txt"
> 
> Until rename is done, the file does not exists and is not complete.
> You will potentially have a garbage file to clean up if the program
> (or system) crashes, but that is not racy in a classic sense, right?

Well. If people rsync from you, they will start fetching incomplete
foo.txt~. Plus the garbage issue.

> This is more of a garbage clean up issue?

Also. Plus sometimes you want temporary "file" that is
deleted. Terminals use it for history, etc...
									Pavel
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