Re: PROBLEM?: "permission denied" when accessing /proc/self/fd/*after setuid

[Daryl Tester]

Sven Wegener wrote:

> If a program wants to fiddle with an existing _file_descriptor_, it should 
> use the dup syscalls or access the descriptor directly.

If you have the source to the program, and can (and are allow to) modify
it, then yes I agree, but that isn't always an option.  And I guess why
have the interface in the first place if we have dup() and friends?.

> Don't know if the behaviour of /dev/std* and /proc/self/fd/* is 
> standardized in some way. But I guess it's implementation-specific.

I guess that's something I was after - if this behavior was defined.
My *belief* (which is questionable) is that it was to emulate dup()
behavior, which it obviously isn't in this case.

> > The above environment isn't necessary to replicate the problem, although
> > what stdout and stderr are attached to has some effect.  The attached C
> > code replicates the issue, but appears to not fail (that is, succeed) if
> > /proc/self/fd/2 is a terminal (e.g. /dev/pts/X) *and* that terminal is
> > owned by the same uid that the code uses (in this case, 500). In the
> > case of an anonymous pipe it appears to fail consistently as the pipe is
> > owned by root.

> Why should it fail for the terminal? You're the owner of it.

I didn't expect it to fail, but then I didn't expect it to fail under any
condition.  That it's failing for the other conditions is my beef.  :-)

> Don't have a FreeBSD installation at my fingers, so can't verify. Maybe 
> they just don't use symlinks to represent the open files, so they do not 
> end up opening the original file.

According to the man page on my crufty 4.11 box:

   If the file descriptor is open and the mode the file is being opened
   with is a subset of the mode of the existing descriptor, the call:

          fd = open("/dev/fd/0", mode);

   and the call:

          fd = fcntl(0, F_DUPFD, 0);

   are equivalent.

I don't have a more recent box handy, but the man page at
<http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=stderr&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE&format=html>
infers that this is still the case.

> As said above, don't know if the behaviour is standardized.

Anybody?  Bueller?

Thanks for the response; they warned me this was a high traffic list.  :-)


Cheers,
 --dt
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