Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: VLAN and Network Drivers 2.4.x

From: Jeff Garzik (garzik@havoc.gtf.org)
Date: Wed Apr 24 2002 - 13:13:55 EST


On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 09:07:23PM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:49:33PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> ...
> > The tulip patch is butt-ugly - the oversized allocation isn't needed,
> > and it just flat-out turns off large packet protection. That's really
> > not what you want to do, even for the best tulip cards. If an oversized
> > gram (non-VLAN) makes it into a network which such a patched tulip
> > driver, you can DoS.
>
> It all depends... At least the cisco switches I have used have
> protection by controlling on how large frames you can send, and
> having automatic enlarging of frame size for VLAN Trunking port.
>
> Of course those switches have some amounts of "jumbogram support"
> as well at port by port basis.
>
> So perhaps you can DoS your machine off the net (or your stream
> very least), but not other machines.

The DoS certainly assumes that one can send jumbo datagrams to the
target machine via a local network. There are a multitude of ways
one can prevent the DoS present in the tulip VLAN patch, what you
name is certainly one of them.

        Jeff

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