Re: Exporting calibrate_delay()

From: Russell King (
Date: Fri Aug 25 2000 - 12:25:51 EST

Philipp Rumpf writes:
> cases since we know the cycle counter frequency (ARM doesn't use cycle counters
> currently).

ARM doesn't have cycle counters; such a thing would be up to the hardware external
to the core. Don't forget ARM is RISC, and the cores are designed primearily for
embedding. With such things, you don't want to add neadless hardware that some
application in 1000 may want to use, so cycle counters get excluded (no one has
had a requirement for these).

> What I'm wondering is why you don't keep bogomips constant and have extra code
> in delay.S to adjust for the (known ?) clock speed degradation; the other
> option is to use any known constant-frequency clock in the system (you can use
> the PIT on i386), as long as accessing it doesn't take away bus bandwidth from
> other CPUs on SMP or DMA transfers.

The former involves extra run-time instructions which, if you can do the
calculation, why end up doing it multiple times? It makes much more sense
to modify the "loops_per_sec" once per change of clock speed (see below).

The latter adds in yet another platform dependency that I just don't want to
think about (we're up to about 16 unique hardware types, covering some 34
platforms). Maybe we ought to follow Linus' recent advice on this mailing
list and have arch/arm-footbridge arch/arm-sa1100 and so forth?

No, I'd prefer to keep the things that can reasonably be kept generic without
too much pain generic, and for that you can adjust the "loops_per_sec" (or
a derived variable that udelay can use) to compensate for clock speed

After all, if you know you've halved the clock speed, you have to double
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