Re: Binary drivers (Linux is DOOMED, DOOMED!)

Kendall Bennett (KendallB@scitechsoft.com)
Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:40:24 -0800


"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com> wrote:

> From: "Kendall Bennett" <KendallB@scitechsoft.com>
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:40:18 -0800
>
> I would, but Linus will not accept it. I asked about this about a
> month ago, because I am interested in helping out with this.
>
> They why even moan about it here on the kernel list if you know
> how the core kernel developers feel about the issue already?

Because the issue keeps coming up. More specifically the issue came
up again this time around not because of proprietry drivers, but
because binary portable modules make sense. And I didn't bring it up
again.

> You complain that the mechanisms are simple for what you want to
> achieve, yet you don't want to submit the patches to implement
> them because you know they won't be accepted, why waste everyone's
> time? Arguments along with zero action equals zero progress.

Ok. I was interested in starting work on such a project, so to scope
out whether it would be worthwhile, I asked Alan and Linus how they
felt about this type of thing. I got my answer, so I didn't start
working on it.

However others believe the same things that I do, so I felt it
necesary to bring these issues up again. At least so they will be on
record further down the track.

> I believe Alan is not budging on the issue, and Linus neither, so
> move on and get on with life instead of making everyone here on the
> list miserable.

Alan believe there is no problem. Yet lots of people (software
developers and hardware vendors alike) tell me via private email that
they agree entirely with what I am saying. Yet they seem to be too
scared to bring this up in public, because the Linux kernel
developers have a long history of shooting down very good, well
designed ideas because *they* don't agree with it.

Witness the KGI/GGI debacle.

Nuf said.

Regards,

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