RE: PUBLIC CHALLENGE: (was RE: devfs again, (was RE: USB device a

Shawn Leas (SLEAS@videoupdate.com)
Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:36:45 -0500


From: Horst von Brand [mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl]
Subject: Re: PUBLIC CHALLENGE: (was RE: devfs again, (was RE: USB device
allocation))

>Solaris machines tend to be a lot more uniform and orderly with their
>devices than PCs. There just are no non-SCSI disks on this (SS4, Linux)
>machine, not several dozen possible SCSI adapters, just a handful
>alternatives for network cards. That sure makes managing devices a _lot_
>simpler. Much of the mess in PCs is because PCs are a mess, generally and
>in hardware terms speaking ;)

Comparing Solaris to a PC, are we? Now I know you don't know what
you're talking about.

I guess Linux only runs on PCs too...

>I've also seen machines where devices are changed all day. Well, you know
>that: Insert this floppy, take it out, insert the next one, now pop in this
>CD, what is on this Zip disk, maybe the tarball is here on this Jazz. Humm,
>let's take a look at the tape here.

Stupid argument... That's a media management issue, not DEVICE
ADDRESSING.

>Look at the Internet, it has to solve similar problems: The nodes have
>names that are (well, almost) totally independent of the topology (think
>UUCP, where you _had_ to know how to get to the destination), and _you_
>have links (bookmarks, personal mail aliases) for resources on this
>enormous network. You don't link to "devices", you link to "the latest
>kernel tarball". Data addressing is the key, not device addressing. Devices
>are means, just like inode numbers, sector positions and such that are
>better forgotten.

Now your smoking bad dope.

-Shawn

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