Re: RFD: nanoseconds, rdtsc and SMP

Philip Gladstone (philip@raptor.com)
Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:52:00 -0500


This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format.

--------------msB98E00E6204EFFAD2D2A633D
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > On the i386, at least currently, they will all operate in sync, but
> > may not start out from the same value (they are *supposed* to, but it
> > turns out to be buggy in practice.)
>
> They aren't even required to by the MP 1.1 spec at least, and I dont
> remember seeing such a requirement in MP 1.4. It was just a convenient
> "works all the time" assumption

In fact, it might be more convenient if the values were 'far apart' as
that
would allow a userspace program to determine which timer it read with
RDTSC.
This, coupled with a shared memory segment, would allow gettimeofday
(and friends)
to be implemented in user space. [The segment would contain the
conversion
factors for each CPU, together with a base and range for each CPU
(updated
each second (or so). The only remaining trick is to ensure that the
timers
never get close (avoids ambiguity about which processor value was read).
I think that this is solvable.]

The only problem is that any user space program that uses RDTSC directly
would probably get confused, but I'm not sure that there is much that
can be done about that.

Philip

-- 
Philip Gladstone                           +1 781 530 2461
Axent Technologies, Waltham, MA
--------------msB98E00E6204EFFAD2D2A633D
Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s"
Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

MIIIcQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIYjCCCF4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BicwggLXMIICQKADAgECAgIwtDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCByDELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTAT BgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTEUMBIGA1UEBxMLRHVyYmFudmlsbGUxGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRo YXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMTMwMQYDVQQLEypDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2aWNlcyBSU0EgSUsg MTk5OC4yLjI1IDg6MzUxOzA5BgNVBAMTMlRoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0Eg SXNzdWluZyBLZXkgMTk5OC4yLjI1MB4XDTk4MDgxMjE0NDIyOVoXDTk5MDgxMjE0NDIyOVow QzEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRcGhp bGlwQHJhcHRvci5jb20wgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAONqzM373SGsMZ5C X1WU1vOr8pZFVRBVJC/WEfc5sR+Q4YAjRk5F4Yww6cHAXtTiptaSWcgK+dli46/5Sy60UX2s iVcl8i6pmcQ/m+kFodrJ1GjZd9SU2+IMnY7liBP2sdwAB02G9EX2B43nAh9/Y2Xl4T8uGV3L oz6CwP5YmUV1AgMBAAGjVDBSMBEGCWCGSAGG+EIBAQQEAwIFoDAOBgNVHQ8BAf8EBAMCBaAw DAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADAfBgNVHSMEGDAWgBTtNBduDiteS4eYkbg3p5i/kh+scjANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQQFAAOBgQBZPzaRk5KnLZCwvJy/y/OaSAfGp1h/c8agEBoLclt3CSytNnT3FVZLq5w/ R0O9wIu8er/eivXt1CvWs/wYpqZpszhmbaIreRZHY9A93G/Zavv7yyMBpK5OVYpkAMUt4rAc 7/twlNMo/493FEBSAiYjdbhIqGOyBikq/R3iyFiyUjCCA0gwggKxoAMCAQICAQgwDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEEBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNV BAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0Nl cnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25h bCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3Rl LmNvbTAeFw05ODAyMjUwODM1MzNaFw0wMDAyMjUwODM1MzNaMIHIMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEV MBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRQwEgYDVQQHEwtEdXJiYW52aWxsZTEaMBgGA1UEChMR VGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxMzAxBgNVBAsTKkNlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzIFJTQSBJ SyAxOTk4LjIuMjUgODozNTE7MDkGA1UEAxMyVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIFJT QSBJc3N1aW5nIEtleSAxOTk4LjIuMjUwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMcx w8QbmSNy0lGFlUzjWZLk6GyBtfQbXwnmxK2zRG+qONdX5LDFy7p0rkxhIyR2BvjZXQ2KKLK0 K+0Nu1Ik9LfFSaeDY/wKBLDvgSj35pHGTZfuknYmYshjN3Y8sZIP3K1SBopxxTcxaobbvQhp KFn87cd9JmfdTd7TxQL+d7bhAgMBAAGjNzA1MBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwHwYDVR0j BBgwFqAUcknCczTGVfQLdnKBfnf0h+fGsg4wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQADgYEAQurti2F+odRc Uqk8vZ6ceegJixKBrY8dWkbt8SUmW8iu/XohFs2gHjuXM4P7TjcqKJemSPUoGAIkfIB7U1C1 +2+a/G2qXCZFqC82IljTGwIDH+6UOfD+NFqISxs9jPPXftOfcFt29tjE4rY8JJ0JJYxZsdSL 8/wEgg6eKYZsxf8xggISMIICDgIBATCBzzCByDELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdl c3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTEUMBIGA1UEBxMLRHVyYmFudmlsbGUxGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25z dWx0aW5nMTMwMQYDVQQLEypDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2aWNlcyBSU0EgSUsgMTk5OC4yLjI1 IDg6MzUxOzA5BgNVBAMTMlRoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgSXNzdWluZyBL ZXkgMTk5OC4yLjI1AgIwtDAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIGZMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0B BwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTk5MDIyNTE1NTIwMVowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFAbwY4LN zW2o+kj0pIx9NnHGPBepMDoGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzEtMCswCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcN AwICAgCAMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGArKJeDYQVZAryDsvAKdBR WizZylG2u8e/UD18u6q2/0KBLsgpF8D4/Mzl0Tfrm50O0HWyG2IbFmKPue2P+ehrtruUyljC U9F4iJ1TEOdtZIqr1xCw3voZOyfyOk6A87luIs2UvLB6Mt+0iimDGUERf0RKYwhIvHWjXfZo swjElU4= --------------msB98E00E6204EFFAD2D2A633D--

- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/