Re: patents, money, talent, and the GPL

Chris Wedgwood (cw@ix.net.nz)
Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:57:56 +1300


On Sun, Dec 20, 1998 at 02:57:56PM -0500, Rick Hohensee wrote:

> There's about 30 things I can think of off hand that I don't have
> patents on because I don't have $100k for each idea for the
> dance-macabre with the Patent Office. Not counting software. So I
> put some of my stuff on the net.

Actually, its about $25K for a good US lawyer per patent. Probably
much less when not using some over-payed corpoprate lawyer.

I've been told (more or less) by US patent laywer that for $25K, you
can more or less patent anything.... (you just make it look different
to things that have come before, whether or not it really is).

> Don Lancaster, long-time hardware hacking columnist, has NEVER seen
> an *individual* make money on a patent.

I have -- I know several people with patents, only one has made money
from it, enough in fact to allow them to hack around all day instead
of getting a real job (it also supports their spouse and kids to some
extent too I believe).

> Possession of patents is not reflective of innovation, it's
> reflective of money.

Yes. People who do IPOs often look for patents to give their company
some 'added value', "even if the patent is worthless"

> Doesn't the leader in over-the-top business aggression, Microsoft,
> have a patent on using XOR to toggle a cursor?

There are worse patents out there -- one for tuning a 1 bit into a 0
bit, and also one for the converse. You can lease this for 0.10 cyber
dollars per bit on the web somewhere.

> I suggest a policy, that patents are for hardware.

It only moves the goalpost -- hardware and software algorithms are
becoming a very fine line (eg. FPGAs).

> The Patent Office would thank us.

No they won't -- they make money from patents. Presumably the more
patents they see, the more they make.

-cw

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