On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 magnus@gol.com wrote:
> There are systems which you never have to switch off.
> They can load new SW modules while running.
> That applies to ALL the SW not just some part of it.
> Even the "kernel".
> It can handle almost all SW errors occuring without halting or reboting.
> It points out the faulty SW and dumps data. And it always works!
> This causes things to "hang" but they can be manually cleared, patched and
> released again.
> Patches can be applied while the program is running.
>
> Debugging can always be turned on since it's supported on the HW level.
> Of course with SW support when turned on.
>
> It's a telephone switch and it's a bit bigger than a PC.
>
> Maybe such ideas would be something for linux to adapt?
> (Except the HW part maybe).
> Compile a new kernel and swap in the new parts while running.
> Does it sound nice?
>
> BR Magnus Back
>
> On 08-Apr-98 Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> Info:
> >> Micro$oft is funding an Intel Development program to put Windoze in
> >
> > It's got to be sort of painful for intel in the embeded apps,
> > palmtop/set-top box arenaa since the only real entry of there's in that
> > arena is the i960rp
> >
> >> hardware.
> >
> > Sounds like windowsce
> >
> >> Targeted for "Laptops" and "Embeded" Systems, the 3-chip
> >
> > hp320lx (now 6months old) seems to have a chip count in the 2 dozen range
> > counting the cpu, system memory, roms, lcd controller, pcmcia controller
> > etc in the space occupied by a pentium II catridge.
> >
> >> "replacement" of the Personal Computer will not ever have to be
> >> "booted",
> >
> > Windowsce machines never really shut down unless you either remove all the
> > batteries, hit the reset button or run out of power.
> >
> >> Micro$oft claims. This will allow the machine to be turned
> >> ON and OFF at will.
> >
> > be fairer probably to say that it never really turns off.
> >
> >> This information comes from an "untrusted" source who works at
> >> Intel's plant in Folsom, California, so take it with a grain of
> >> salt.
> >>
> >> However, if true, such a machine can't "boot" anything. FYI...
> >
> > If it ends up being anything like the ce scheme there will no doubt be a,
> > mechanism for replacing the roms, loading patches into the unified
> > memory/storage block of ram, and generally carrying on as usual.
> >
> > Sees like every attempt to make general purpose computers less functional
> > (ie. thin clients, win terminals, java stations, insert acronym here)
> > seems doomed to failure anyway it's either general purpose computer or it
> > can join the pong box, the original nec ultralite, and the newton in the
> > closet...
> >
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dick Johnson
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> >> Warning : It's hard to remain at the trailing edge of technology.
> >
> > All in all it probably closer to the truth than fiction...
> >
> > joelja
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