Re: GGI, EGCS/PGCC, Kernel source

Pavel Machek (
Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:01:06 +0100


> > *heartattack* Geez, whatever gave you the impression that we are trying to
> > put OpenGL into the kernel?? trust me, we are not.
> >
> > We are aiming at making the kernel patch:
> >
> > 1. Small
> > 2. Compiletime config option
> [SNIP]
> > _Please_ go over to and read our webpages
> > before saying something like this. I have the distinct feeling that most
> > people here are critizise something they know next to nothing about.
> That is exactly what I've found when discussing GGI. Those who
> oppose it the most do so because they envision a huge graphics
> library complete with 2D, 3D code, accelleration, etc... to be
> included in the kernel. With GGI this is 100% false however.
> It's too bad that in general, people open their mouth's and speak
> before getting their facts straight and researching their
> information.

Okay, so I took a long look at ggi's source and now I can say why it
is wrong:

1) It is step back: we used to have loadable keymaps. With ggi, kernel
contains files such as keyboard_english.c. Even if it is not run-time
bloat, it is source bloat.

2) It touches things it should not touch. It replaces big parts of
drivers/char. I know that keyboard etc. are somehow related to
graphics, but you really do not want to _replace_ low level
drivers. This way, ggi being config option would mean having drivers

3) It says it is right in much too big letters at boot :-).

> > But complaining/attacking/worrying about us without even having checked it
> > out yourself is a very bad thing to do (tm).
> That is a very open mind who speaks these words. ;o)
> Hard to argue with an attitude like that. Although I'm sure that
> someone will. ;o)

Sorry that it is me.

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