Re: URGENT: A Plea to the owners of

Jan Klabacka (
Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:36:56 +0100

I am also sometimes tired with high amount of messages in this list,
caused also by below mentioned problem.

My point of view is easy. If no one will respond for off-topic
questions (or respond with "please, go somewhere else, this is
off-topic question"), these people will disappear themselves.


Jan Klabacka

On 2 Apr 97 at 14:15, Dave Barr wrote:

> In article <199704021759.MAA00370@jenolan.caipgeneral>,
> David S. Miller <> wrote:
> >I think it is just as much of a mistake to tell a new user to go blow
> >even if he posts his legitimate questions here.
> Nobody's suggesting this. I agree new users may have legitimate
> questions, but it's clear (see below) that they do not have legitimate
> questions _here_. All we're asking is that they be nudged elsewhere.
> >As for the offtopic'ness as of late, the past few days have been
> >filled with "clueful postings" and in fact your posting here is the
> >first break in that spell. Touche'
> Well, to further confuse the issue with some facts, let's in fact
> look at the subjects of the past 3 days, shall we?


> Maybe you're reading a different list than I am, but for the past
> few days I see one and ONLY one on-topic post. Sure, some may
> be "clueful", but for another list entirely.
> >There really isn't anything that can be "done" about offtopic postings
> >(as others have pointed out) and segregating the kernel list is not
> >going to happen at least as long as I run them at vger.
> Well, that's a rather dissappointing stance.
> I whole-heartedly agree with Todd Lewis's post. I'm a lurker here too,
> hoping to suck off kernel insights. However kernel stuff is _only_
> what this list is for. I've been a part of many lists, and unfortunately
> this is a natural progression as a list comes of age (or past its age).
> I recall a rather amusing post by I belive Brent Chapman (owner of
> the Firewalls Digest) describing the four stages of any mailing list.
> If Mr. Miller chooses not to do something, that's fine. I hope
> someone takes it upon themself to volunteer and send _polite_ messages
> to off-topic posters suggesting more appropriate lists for their
> inquiries. It would be nice to have some sort of quasi-moderation
> on this list.
> --Dave