Re: [RFC] Randomness on confidential computing platforms

From: H. Peter Anvin
Date: Mon Jan 29 2024 - 12:09:47 EST


On January 29, 2024 8:41:49 AM PST, "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 08:30:11AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 1/26/24 05:42, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> > 3. Panic after enough re-tries of RDRAND/RDSEED instructions fail.
>> > Another DoS variant against the Guest.
>>
>> I think Sean was going down the same path, but I really dislike the idea
>> of having TDX-specific (or CoCo-specific) policy here.
>>
>> How about we WARN_ON() RDRAND/RDSEED going bonkers? The paranoid folks
>> can turn on panic_on_warn, if they haven't already.
>
>Sure, we can do it for kernel, but we have no control on what userspace
>does.
>
>Sensible userspace on RDRAND/RDSEED failure should fallback to kernel
>asking for random bytes, but who knows if it happens in practice
>everywhere.
>
>Do we care?
>

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