Re: element sizes in input_event struct on riscv32

From: Dmitry Torokhov
Date: Mon Dec 18 2023 - 21:51:05 EST


Hi Antonious,

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 11:11:18AM +0100, Antonios Salios wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I'm having trouble getting evdev to run in a simulated Buildroot
> environment on riscv32. Evtest (and the x11 driver) seems to be
> receiving garbage data from input devices.
>
> Analyzing the input_event struct shows that the kernel uses 32-bit (aka
> __kernel_ulong_t) values for __sec & __usec.
> Evtest on the other hand interprets these variables as 64-bit time_t
> values in a timeval struct, resulting in a mismatch between the kernel
> and userspace.
>
> What would be the correct size for these values on a 32-bit
> architecture that uses 64-bit time_t values?

I think there is misunderstanding - we do not have *2* 64-bit values on
32-but architectures. Here is what was done:

commit 152194fe9c3f03232b9c0d0264793a7fa4af82f8
Author: Deepa Dinamani <deepa.kernel@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun Jan 7 17:44:42 2018 -0800

Input: extend usable life of event timestamps to 2106 on 32 bit systems

The input events use struct timeval to store event time, unfortunately
this structure is not y2038 safe and is being replaced in kernel with
y2038 safe structures.

Because of ABI concerns we can not change the size or the layout of
structure input_event, so we opt to re-interpreting the 'seconds' part
of timestamp as an unsigned value, effectively doubling the range of
values, to year 2106.

Newer glibc that has support for 32 bit applications to use 64 bit
time_t supplies __USE_TIME_BITS64 define [1], that we can use to present
the userspace with updated input_event layout. The updated layout will
cause the compile time breakage, alerting applications and distributions
maintainers to the issue. Existing 32 binaries will continue working
without any changes until 2038.

Ultimately userspace applications should switch to using monotonic or
boot time clocks, as realtime clock is not very well suited for input
event timestamps as it can go backwards (see a80b83b7b8 "Input: evdev -
add CLOCK_BOOTTIME support" by by John Stultz). With monotonic clock the
practical range of reported times will always fit into the pair of 32
bit values, as we do not expect any system to stay up for a hundred
years without a single reboot.

[1] https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Y2038ProofnessDesign

I'll let Arnd and Deepa to comment further.

Thanks.

--
Dmitry