Hi,
A few rookie questions below.
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 2:39 AM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 2023/10/18 4:19, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
On 2023/10/18 4:03, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
I would also appreciate if you have some documentation or link to
relevant discussions on the mailing list. That will avoid having same
discussion you may already have done in the past.
Hi,
The discussion has been stuck for a month, but I'd still like to
continue figuring out the way best for the whole kernel to implement
this feature. I summarize the current situation and question that needs
to be answered before push this forward:
The goal of this RFC is to allow to report hash values calculated with
eBPF steering program. It's essentially just to report 4 bytes from the
kernel to the userspace.
AFAICT, the proposed design is to have BPF generate some data
(namely hash, but could be anything afaict) and consume it from
user space. Instead of updating __sk_buff, can we have the user
space to fetch the data/hash from a bpf map? If this is an option,
I guess we can implement the same feature with BPF tracing
programs?
Unfortunately, however, it is not acceptable for the BPF subsystem
because the "stable" BPF is completely fixed these days. The
"unstable/kfunc" BPF is an alternative, but the eBPF program will be
shipped with a portable userspace program (QEMU)[1] so the lack of
interface stability is not tolerable.
bpf kfuncs are as stable as exported symbols. Is exported symbols
like stability enough for the use case? (I would assume yes.)
Another option is to hardcode the algorithm that was conventionally
implemented with eBPF steering program in the kernel[2]. It is possible
because the algorithm strictly follows the virtio-net specification[3].
However, there are proposals to add different algorithms to the
specification[4], and hardcoding the algorithm to the kernel will
require to add more UAPIs and code each time such a specification change
happens, which is not good for tuntap.
The requirement looks similar to hid-bpf. Could you explain why that
model is not enough? HID also requires some stability AFAICT.