Re: [PATCH v3] RISC-V: Probe misaligned access speed in parallel

From: Palmer Dabbelt
Date: Tue Nov 07 2023 - 12:45:48 EST


On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 09:26:03 PST (-0800), Evan Green wrote:
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 12:34 AM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
<bigeasy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 2023-11-06 14:58:55 [-0800], Evan Green wrote:
> Probing for misaligned access speed takes about 0.06 seconds. On a
> system with 64 cores, doing this in smp_callin() means it's done
> serially, extending boot time by 3.8 seconds. That's a lot of boot time.
>
> Instead of measuring each CPU serially, let's do the measurements on
> all CPUs in parallel. If we disable preemption on all CPUs, the
> jiffies stop ticking, so we can do this in stages of 1) everybody
> except core 0, then 2) core 0. The allocations are all done outside of
> on_each_cpu() to avoid calling alloc_pages() with interrupts disabled.
>
> For hotplugged CPUs that come in after the boot time measurement,
> register CPU hotplug callbacks, and do the measurement there. Interrupts
> are enabled in those callbacks, so they're fine to do alloc_pages() in.

I think this is dragged out of proportion. I would do this (if needed
can can't be identified by CPU-ID or so) on boot CPU only. If there is
evidence/ proof/ blessing from the high RiscV council that different
types of CPU cores are mixed together then this could be extended.
You brought Big-Little up in the other thread. This is actually known.
Same as with hyper-threads on x86, you know which CPU is the core and
which hyper thread (CPU) belongs to it.
So in terms of BigLittle you _could_ limit this to one Big and one
Little core instead running it on all.

Doing it on one per cluster might also happen to work, but I still see
nothing that prevents variety within a cluster, so I'm not comfortable
with that assumption. It also doesn't buy much. I'm not sure what kind
of guidance RVI is providing on integrating multiple CPUs into a
system. I haven't seen any myself, but am happy to reassess if there's
documentation banning the scenarios I'm imagining.

IIUC there's pretty much no rules here, and vendors are already building wacky systems (the K230 just showed up with heterogenous-ISA cores, we've got a handful now). I guess we could write up some guidance in Documentation/riscv describing what sort of systems we generally test on, but given how RISC-V generally goes vendors are just going to build the crazy stuff anyway and we'll have to deal with it.



But this is just my few on this. From PREEMPT_RT's point of view, the
way you restructured the memory allocation should work now.

Thanks!


> Reported-by: Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/mhng-9359993d-6872-4134-83ce-c97debe1cf9a@palmer-ri-x1c9/T/#mae9b8f40016f9df428829d33360144dc5026bcbf
> Fixes: 584ea6564bca ("RISC-V: Probe for unaligned access speed")
> Signed-off-by: Evan Green <evan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> diff --git a/arch/riscv/kernel/cpufeature.c b/arch/riscv/kernel/cpufeature.c
> index 6a01ded615cd..fe59e18dbd5b 100644
> --- a/arch/riscv/kernel/cpufeature.c
> +++ b/arch/riscv/kernel/cpufeature.c

>
> -static int __init check_unaligned_access_boot_cpu(void)
> +/* Measure unaligned access on all CPUs present at boot in parallel. */
> +static int check_unaligned_access_all_cpus(void)
> {
> - check_unaligned_access(0);
> + unsigned int cpu;
> + unsigned int cpu_count = num_possible_cpus();
> + struct page **bufs = kzalloc(cpu_count * sizeof(struct page *),
> + GFP_KERNEL);

kcalloc(). For beauty reasons you could try a reverse xmas tree.

> +
> + if (!bufs) {
> + pr_warn("Allocation failure, not measuring misaligned performance\n");
> + return 0;
> + }
> +
> + /*
> + * Allocate separate buffers for each CPU so there's no fighting over
> + * cache lines.
> + */
> + for_each_cpu(cpu, cpu_online_mask) {
> + bufs[cpu] = alloc_pages(GFP_KERNEL, MISALIGNED_BUFFER_ORDER);
> + if (!bufs[cpu]) {
> + pr_warn("Allocation failure, not measuring misaligned performance\n");
> + goto out;
> + }
> + }
> +
> + /* Check everybody except 0, who stays behind to tend jiffies. */
> + on_each_cpu(check_unaligned_access_nonboot_cpu, bufs, 1);

comments! _HOW_ do you ensure that CPU0 is left out? You don't. CPU0
does this and the leaves which is a waste. Using on_each_cpu_cond()
could deal with this. And you have the check within the wrapper
(check_unaligned_access_nonboot_cpu()) anyway.

> + /* Check core 0. */
> + smp_call_on_cpu(0, check_unaligned_access, bufs[0], true);

Now that comment is obvious. If you want to add a comment, why not state
why CPU0 has to be done last?

> +
> + /* Setup hotplug callback for any new CPUs that come online. */
> + cpuhp_setup_state_nocalls(CPUHP_AP_ONLINE_DYN, "riscv:online",
> + riscv_online_cpu, NULL);
Instead riscv:online you could use riscv:unaliged_check or something
that pin points the callback to something obvious. This is exported via
sysfs.

Again, comment is obvious. For that to make sense would require RiscV to
support physical-hotplug. For KVM like environment (where you can plug in
CPUs later) this probably doesn't make sense at all. Why not? Because

- without explicit CPU pinning your slow/ fast CPU mapping (host <->
guest) could change if the scheduler on the host moves the threads
around.

Taking a system with non-identical cores and allowing vcpus to bounce
between them sounds like a hypervisor configuration issue to me,
regardless of this patch.


- without explicit task offload and resource partitioning on the host
your guest thread might get interrupt during the measurement. This is
done during boot so chances are high that it runs 100% of its time
slice and will be preempted once other tasks on the host ask for CPU
run time.

The measurement takes the best (lowest time) iteration. So unless
every iteration gets interrupted, I should get a good read in there
somewhere.
-Evan