FOLL_LONGTERM vs FOLL_EPHEMERAL Re: [PATCH] tee: add FOLL_LONGTERM for CMA case when alloc shm

From: Christoph Hellwig
Date: Thu May 18 2023 - 00:21:16 EST


On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 08:23:33PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> In general: if user space controls it -> possibly forever -> long-term. Even
> if in most cases it's a short delay: there is no trusting on user space.
>
> For example, iouring fixed buffers keep pages pinned until user space
> decides to unregistered the buffers -> long-term.
>
> Short-term is, for example, something like O_DIRECT where we pin -> DMA ->
> unpin in essentially one operation.

Btw, one thing that's been on my mind is that I think we got the
polarity on FOLL_LONGTERM wrong. Instead of opting into the long term
behavior it really should be the default, with a FOLL_EPHEMERAL flag
to opt out of it. And every users of this flag is required to have
a comment explaining the life time rules for the pin..