Re: [PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: Discuss interleaved replies

From: Kees Cook
Date: Thu May 11 2023 - 14:38:44 EST


On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 11:21:36AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 10.05.23 20:34, Kees Cook wrote:
> > Top-posting has been strongly discouraged in Linux development, but this
> > was actually not written anywhere in the common documentation about
> > sending patches and replying to reviews. Add a section about trimming
> > and interleaved replies.
>
> Thx for doing this.
>
> > [...]
> > ---
> > Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+)
>
> For some reason we have duplicate code^w documentation for this, hence
> I'd say the same or a similar text should also be added to one of the
> filed in Documentation/process/[0-9].*rst ; from a quick
> Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst might be the best one.
>
> Maybe in fact the text should move there and submitting-patches.rst
> should have a much shorter version, as it's meant to be the terser of
> the two docs about this.

Hm, The place where it is mentioned is even shorter, so I kind of like
it in submittingpatches. But, I'm open to whatever seems best. I just
want to have a URL to point people at, and I'm usually pointing to
places in submittingpatches. :)

>
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> > index eac7167dce83..3e838da8822f 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> > @@ -326,6 +326,29 @@ explaining difference aganst previous submission (see
> > See Documentation/process/email-clients.rst for recommendations on email
> > clients and mailing list etiquette.
> >
> > +Use trimmed interleaved replies in email discussions
> > +----------------------------------------------------
> > +Top-posting is strongly discouraged in Linux kernel development
> > +discusions. Interleaved (or "inline") replies make conversations much
>
> s/discusions/discussions/

Agh, thanks. Fixed.

>
> > +easier to follow. For more details see:
> > +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
> > +
> > +As is frequently quoted on the mailing list:
> > +
> > + A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post
> > + Q: Were do I find info about this thing called top-posting?
> > + A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> > + Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> > + A: Top-posting.
> > + Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> > +
> > +Similarly, please trim all unneeded quotations that aren't relevant
> > +to your reply. This makes replies easier to find, and saves time and
>
> Nitpicking, feel free to ignore: maybe "s/replies/responses/" or
> something like that, as at least my stupid brain accidentally thought of
> the email reply (as whole) when reading this for the first time.

Yeah, that is more readable. Fixed.

> > +space. For more details see: http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top
> > [...]
>
> Ciao, Thorsten

Thanks!

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Kees Cook