Re: [PATCH v2] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 05:38:44AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> > I wonder if that is really the case? I know people tried this with
> > RDMA and it didn't get very far before testing uncovered data
> > corruption and kernel crashes.. Maybe O_DIRECT has a much smaller race
> > window so people can get away with it?
> 
> It absolutely causes all kinds of issues even with O_DIRECT.  I'd be
> all for trying to disallow it as it simplies a lot of things, but I fear
> it's not going to stick.

I suggest the kernel lockdown mode again. If people want to do unsafe
things they can boot in a lessor lockdown mode, we've disabled several
kernel features this way already. lockdown integrity sounds
appropriate for this kind of bug.

Maybe we can start to get some data on who is actually using it.

> > Alternatively, perhaps we abuse FOLL_LONGTERM and prevent it from
> > working with filebacked pages since, I think, the ease of triggering a
> > bug goes up the longer the pages are pinned.
> 
> FOLL_LONGTERM on file backed pages is a nightmare.  If you think you
> can get away with prohibiting it for RDMA, and KVM doesn't need it
> I'd be all for not allowing that at all.

Yes, I think we can and should do this.

Jason