Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues"

From: Artem S. Tashkinov
Date: Sun Oct 02 2022 - 15:27:45 EST




On 10/2/22 14:35, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 12:49:04PM +0000, Artem S. Tashkinov wrote:
And if we force developers to get Bugzilla spam whether they want it
not, and they said, "absolutely not", is it there right to have the
mailing list gateway disabled --- and if so, what does that do to the
user experience? Thats basically the situation we have right now.

As I've said many times already: bugzilla must be an opt-out, not opt-in
experience/option.

Let's subscribe the past six months of developers using git commits and
if someone doesn't like getting emails they go to the website and
unsubscribe _once_ which takes a minute. This is a non-issue I've no
clue why we're dwelling on it.

auto-subscribing people to anything is a sure way to get lots of people
instantly mad at you and have them add the address to their filters.

That's just not how to do things well, sorry.

If you wish to be the one triaging all bugzilla bugs, wonderful, please
start doing so. But to volunteer others and insist that they do it is a
non-starter for obvious reasons.

It's so weird to read this I'm just dumbfounded.

People won't even receive emails if they are simply on bugzilla. It's
only if they get CC'ed to certain bug reports they'll receive them.

And they can unsubcribe literally after getting a single email. Can
anyone even get mad because of this? To me it feels like someone
sees/creates a drama where there's none.

If you're doing kernel development it's obvious that your email address
has been revealed and people are expected to deal with it.

I receive emails about Linux from random people I don't know and it's
never freaked me out. We are talking about service emails (not spam, not
automatic subscription) about their _work_.

Regards,
Artem