RE: [PATCH] sched/fair: Adjust the allowed NUMA imbalance when SD_NUMA spans multiple LLCs

From: Srinivasan, Sadagopan
Date: Fri Nov 05 2021 - 14:38:39 EST


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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@xxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Adjust the allowed NUMA imbalance when SD_NUMA spans multiple LLCs

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On 28/10/21 14:03, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Commit 7d2b5dd0bcc4 ("sched/numa: Allow a floating imbalance between
> NUMA
> nodes") allowed an imbalance between NUMA nodes such that
> communicating tasks would not be pulled apart by the load balancer.
> This works fine when there is a 1:1 relationship between LLC and node
> but can be suboptimal for multiple LLCs if independent tasks prematurely use CPUs sharing cache.
>
> Zen* has multiple LLCs per node with local memory channels and due to
> the allowed imbalance, it's far harder to tune some workloads to run
> optimally than it is on hardware that has 1 LLC per node. This patch
> adjusts the imbalance on multi-LLC machines to allow an imbalance up
> to the point where LLCs should be balanced between nodes.
>

I've run out of brain juice for today and didn't get to decipher the logic you're implementing, but for now I do have a comment on the topology detection side of things (see inline).

> --- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
> @@ -644,6 +644,7 @@ static void destroy_sched_domains(struct
> sched_domain *sd) DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain __rcu *,
> sd_llc); DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_llc_size); DEFINE_PER_CPU(int,
> sd_llc_id);
> +DEFINE_PER_CPU(int, sd_numaimb_shift);
> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain_shared __rcu *, sd_llc_shared);
> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain __rcu *, sd_numa);
> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sched_domain __rcu *, sd_asym_packing); @@
> -672,6 +673,20 @@ static void update_top_cache_domain(int cpu)
> sd = lowest_flag_domain(cpu, SD_NUMA);
> rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_numa, cpu), sd);
>
> + /*
> + * Save the threshold where an imbalance is allowed between SD_NUMA
> + * domains. If LLC spans the entire node, then imbalances are allowed
> + * until 25% of the domain is active. Otherwise, allow an imbalance
> + * up to the point where LLCs between NUMA nodes should be balanced
> + * to maximise cache and memory bandwidth utilisation.
> + */
> + if (sd) {
> + if (sd->span_weight == size)
> + per_cpu(sd_numaimb_shift, cpu) = 2;
> + else
> + per_cpu(sd_numaimb_shift, cpu) = max(2, ilog2(sd->span_weight / size * num_online_nodes()));
> + }
> +

So nodes are covered by the NODE topology level which *doesn't* have SD_NUMA set. I always get confused on how MC/DIE/NODE is supposed to look on those sub-NUMA clustering thingies, but either way consider:

NUMA-20 [ ]
NODE [ ][ ]
DIE [ ][ ]
MC [ ][ ][ ][ ]

NODE level gets degenerated, update_top_cache_domain() is invoked with:

NUMA-20 [ ]
DIE [ ][ ]
MC [ ][ ][ ][ ]

That lowest_flag_domain(cpu, SD_NUMA) will span the entire system.

Conversely, with this topology where node == LLC:

NUMA-20 [ ]
NODE [ ][ ]
DIE [ ][ ]
MC [ ][ ]

You get

NUMA-20 [ ]
MC [ ][ ]

lowest_flag_domain(cpu, SD_NUMA)->span_weight > size, even though LLC = node.

Long story short, I think you want to use sd->child here - that *should* point to a domain that spans exactly one node (it's gonna be NODE, or some other domain that has the same span because NODE was degenerated).

> sd = highest_flag_domain(cpu, SD_ASYM_PACKING);
> rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_asym_packing, cpu), sd);
>