Re: [PATCH v5 2/7] can: bittiming: allow TDC{V,O} to be zero and add can_tdc_const::tdc{v,o,f}_min

[Marc Kleine-Budde]

On 16.08.2021 14:33:09, Marc Kleine-Budde wrote:
> On 16.08.2021 14:25:19, Marc Kleine-Budde wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure, if we talked about the mcp251xfd's tcdo, valid values are
> > > > -64...63.
> > > 
> > > Yes! Stefan shed some light on this. The mcp251xfd uses a tdco
> > > value which is relative to the sample point.
> > 
> > I don't read the documentation this way....
> > 
> > > | SSP = TDCV + absolute TDCO
> > > |     = TDCV + SP + relative TDCO
> > > 
> > > Consequently:
> > > | relative TDCO = absolute TDCO - SP
> > 
> > In the mcp15xxfd family manual
> > (http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/MCP251XXFD-CAN-FD-Controller-Module-Family-Reference-Manual-20005678B.pdf)
> > in the 2mbit/s data bit rate example in table 3-5 (page 21) it says:
> > 
> > | DTSEG1  15 DTQ
> > | DTSEG2   4 DTQ
> > | TDCO    15 DTQ
> > 
> > The mcp251xfd driver uses 15, the framework calculates 16 (== Sync Seg+
> > tseg1, which is correct), and relative tdco would be 0:
> > 
> > | mcp251xfd_set_bittiming: tdco=15, priv->tdc.tdc=16, relative_tdco=0
> > 
> > Here the output with the patched ip tool:
> 
> Sorry, the previous output was not using the sample points of the
> example in the data sheet, this is the fixed output:
> 
> | 6: mcp251xfd0: <NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP,ECHO> mtu 72 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 10
> |     link/can  promiscuity 0 minmtu 0 maxmtu 0 
> |     can <FD,TDC_AUTO> state ERROR-ACTIVE (berr-counter tx 0 rx 0) restart-ms 100 
> |           bitrate 500000 sample-point 0.800
> |           tq 25 prop-seg 31 phase-seg1 32 phase-seg2 16 sjw 1 brp 1
> |           mcp251xfd: tseg1 2..256 tseg2 1..128 sjw 1..128 brp 1..256 brp_inc 1
> |           dbitrate 2000000 dsample-point 0.800
> |           dtq 25 dprop-seg 7 dphase-seg1 8 dphase-seg2 4 dsjw 1 dbrp 1
> |           tdco 16
> |           mcp251xfd: dtseg1 1..32 dtseg2 1..16 dsjw 1..16 dbrp 1..256 dbrp_inc 1
> |           tdco 0..127
> |           clock 40000000 numtxqueues 1 numrxqueues 1 gso_max_size 65536 gso_max_segs 65535 parentbus spi parentdev spi0.0 

The following sequence doesn't clear "tdcv" properly:

| ip link set dev mcp251xfd0 down; \
| ip link set mcp251xfd0 txqueuelen 10 up type can \
|     sample-point 0.8 bitrate 500000  \
|     dsample-point 0.8 dbitrate 2000000 fd on \
|     tdc-mode manual tdco 11 tdcv 22
| 
| ip link set dev mcp251xfd0 down; \
| ip link set mcp251xfd0 txqueuelen 10 up type can \
|     sample-point 0.8 bitrate 500000  \
|     dsample-point 0.8 dbitrate 2000000 fd on

| Aug 16 15:10:43 rpi4b8 kernel: mcp251xfd spi0.0 mcp251xfd0: mcp251xfd_set_bittiming: tdco=11 tdcv=22 mode=manual
| Aug 16 15:10:43 rpi4b8 kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): mcp251xfd0: link becomes ready
| Aug 16 15:10:59 rpi4b8 kernel: mcp251xfd spi0.0 mcp251xfd0: mcp251xfd_set_bittiming: tdco=16 tdcv=22 mode=automatic
| Aug 16 15:10:59 rpi4b8 kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): mcp251xfd0: link becomes ready

neither does "tdc-mode off":

| Aug 16 15:12:18 rpi4b8 kernel: mcp251xfd spi0.0 mcp251xfd0: mcp251xfd_set_bittiming: tdco=11 tdcv=22 mode=off
| Aug 16 15:12:18 rpi4b8 kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): mcp251xfd0: link becomes ready

---

We have 4 operations:
- tdc-mode off                  switch off tdc altogether
- tdc-mode manual tdco X tdcv Y configure X and Y for tdco and tdcv
- tdc-mode auto tdco X          configure X tdco and
                                controller measures tdcv automatically
- /* nothing */                 configure default value for tdco
                                controller measures tdcv automatically

The /* nothing */ operation is what the old "ip" tool does, so we're
backwards compatible here (using the old "ip" tool on an updated
kernel/driver).

At first glance it's a bit non-intuitive that you have to specify
nothing for the "full" automatic mode.

Oh, I just noticed:

| ip link set dev mcp251xfd0 down; \
| ip link set mcp251xfd0 txqueuelen 10 up type can \
|     sample-point 0.8 bitrate 500000  \
|     dsample-point 0.8 dbitrate 2000000 fd on \
|     tdc-mode manual tdco 11 tdcv 22

followed by:

| ip link set dev mcp251xfd0 down; \
| ip link set mcp251xfd0 txqueuelen 10 up type can

We stay in manual mode:

| Aug 16 15:27:47 rpi4b8 kernel: mcp251xfd spi0.0 mcp251xfd0: mcp251xfd_set_bittiming: tdco=11 tdcv=22 mode=manual

| 8: mcp251xfd0: <NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP,ECHO> mtu 72 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 10
|     link/can  promiscuity 0 minmtu 0 maxmtu 0 
|     can <FD,TDC_AUTO,TDC_MANUAL> state ERROR-ACTIVE (berr-counter tx 0 rx 0) restart-ms 100 
|           bitrate 500000 sample-point 0.800
|           tq 25 prop-seg 31 phase-seg1 32 phase-seg2 16 sjw 1 brp 1
|           mcp251xfd: tseg1 2..256 tseg2 1..128 sjw 1..128 brp 1..256 brp_inc 1
|           dbitrate 2000000 dsample-point 0.800
|           dtq 25 dprop-seg 7 dphase-seg1 8 dphase-seg2 4 dsjw 1 dbrp 1
|           tdcv 22 tdco 11
|           mcp251xfd: dtseg1 1..32 dtseg2 1..16 dsjw 1..16 dbrp 1..256 dbrp_inc 1
|           tdcv 0..63 tdco 0..63
|           clock 40000000 numtxqueues 1 numrxqueues 1 gso_max_size 65536 gso_max_segs 65535 parentbus spi parentdev spi0.0 

I have to give "fd on" + the bit timing parameters to go to the full
automatic mode again:

| Aug 16 15:32:46 rpi4b8 kernel: mcp251xfd spi0.0 mcp251xfd0: mcp251xfd_set_bittiming: tdco=16 tdcv=22 mode=automatic


Does it make sense to let "mode auto" without a tdco value switch the
controller into full automatic mode and /* nothing */ not tough the tdc
config at all? If the full automatic mode is power on default mode, then
new kernel/drivers are compatible with old the old ip tool.

regards,
Marc

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