Re: Candidate Linux ABI for Intel AMX and hypothetical new related features

From: Thomas Gleixner
Date: Fri May 21 2021 - 05:28:20 EST


Len,

On Thu, May 20 2021 at 17:49, Len Brown wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 5:41 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 2) It has effects on power/thermal and therefore effects which reach
>> outside of the core scope
>
> FWIW, this is true of *every* instruction in the CPU.
> Indeed, even when the CPU is executing *no* instructions at all,
> the C-state chosen by that CPU has power/thermal impacts on its peers.
>
> Granted, high performance instructions such as AVX-512 and TMUL
> are the most extreme case.

Right and we have to draw the line somewhere.

>> 3) Your approach of making it unconditionally available via the
>> proposed #NM prevents the OS and subsequently the system admin /
>> system designer to implement fine grained control over that
>> resource.
>>
>> And no, an opt-in approach by providing a non-mandatory
>> preallocation prctl does not solve that problem.
>
> I'm perfectly fine with making the explicit allocation (aka opt-in) mandatory,
> and enforcing it.

Great!

Thanks,

tglx