Re: random(4) changes

From: Stephan Mueller
Date: Mon Apr 25 2016 - 13:56:24 EST


Am Montag, 25. April 2016, 10:38:25 schrieb Andi Kleen:

Hi Andi,

> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 07:25:55PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > Am Montag, 25. April 2016, 09:06:03 schrieb Andi Kleen:
> >
> > Hi Andi,
> >
> > > Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > >
> > > There is also the third problem of horrible scalability of /dev/random
> > > output on larger systems, for which patches are getting ignored.
> > >
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/10/716
> > >
> > > Ignoring problems does not make them go away.
> >
> > I have seen your patches, but I am not fully sure I understand the root
> > cause. is the noise source handling the issue or the random number
> > generation the issue?
>
> Noise source handling is fine, the problem is the global locking on the
> entropy pools when generating random numbers.
>
> > If it is the latter, can you explain where the scalability issue comes in?
>
> A single pool which is locked/written to does not scale. Larger systems
> need multiple pools

That would imply that even when you have a system with 1000 CPUs, you want to
have a large amount of random numbers. Is this the use case?

Or is simply the presence of 1000 CPUs an issue for "normal" loads on
/dev/urandom?
>
> -Andi


Ciao
Stephan