Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4

From: Andrew Morton
Date: Wed Dec 16 2015 - 18:58:49 EST


On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:19:43 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> ...
>
> * base kernel
> $ grep "Killed process" base-oom-run1.log | tail -n1
> [ 211.824379] Killed process 3086 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:81996kB, file-rss:332kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> $ grep "Killed process" base-oom-run2.log | tail -n1
> [ 157.188326] Killed process 3094 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:81996kB, file-rss:368kB, shmem-rss:0kB
>
> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" base-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 78
> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" base-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 76
>
> The number of OOM invocations is consistent with my last measurements
> but the runtime is way too different (it took 800+s).

I'm seeing 211 seconds vs 157 seconds? If so, that's not toooo bad. I
assume the 800+s is sum-across-multiple-CPUs? Given that all the CPUs
are pounding away at the same data and the same disk, that doesn't
sound like very interesting info - the overall elapsed time is the
thing to look at in this case.

> One thing that
> could have skewed results was that I was tail -f the serial log on the
> host system to see the progress. I have stopped doing that. The results
> are more consistent now but still too different from the last time.
> This is really weird so I've retested with the last 4.2 mmotm again and
> I am getting consistent ~220s which is really close to the above. If I
> apply the WQ vmstat patch on top I am getting close to 160s so the stale
> vmstat counters made a difference which is to be expected. I have a new
> SSD in my laptop which migh have made a difference but I wouldn't expect
> it to be that large.
>
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" base-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 4
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" base-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 1
>
> * patched kernel
> $ grep "Killed process" patched-oom-run1.log | tail -n1
> [ 341.164930] Killed process 3099 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:82000kB, file-rss:336kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> $ grep "Killed process" patched-oom-run2.log | tail -n1
> [ 349.111539] Killed process 3082 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:81996kB, file-rss:4kB, shmem-rss:0kB

Even better.

> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" patched-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 78
> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" patched-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 77
>
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" patched-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 1
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" patched-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 0
>
> So the number of OOM killer invocation is the same but the overall
> runtime of the test was much longer with the patched kernel. This can be
> attributed to more retries in general. The results from the base kernel
> are quite inconsitent and I think that consistency is better here.

It's hard to say how long declaration of oom should take. Correctness
comes first. But what is "correct"? oom isn't a binary condition -
there's a chance that if we keep churning away for another 5 minutes
we'll be able to satisfy this allocation (but probably not the next
one). There are tradeoffs between promptness-of-declaring-oom and
exhaustiveness-in-avoiding-it.

>
> 2) 2 writers again with 10s of run and then 10 mem_eaters to consume as much
> memory as possible without triggering the OOM killer. This required a lot
> of tuning but I've considered 3 consecutive runs without OOM as a success.

"a lot of tuning" sounds bad. It means that the tuning settings you
have now for a particular workload on a particular machine will be
wrong for other workloads and machines. uh-oh.

> ...
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