Re: [PATCH v4 4/5] pstore: add pmsg

[Mark Salyzyn]

On 01/13/2015 04:16 PM, Åukasz Stelmach wrote:
> > A secured user-space accessible pstore object. Writes
> > to /dev/pmsg0 are appended to the buffer, on reboot
> > the persistent contents are available in
> > /sys/fs/pstore/pmsg-ramoops-[ID].
> >
> > One possible use is syslogd, or other daemon, can
> > write messages, then on reboot provides a means to
> > triage user-space activities leading up to a panic
> > as a companion to the pstore dmesg or console logs.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mark Salyzyn <salyzyn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > ---
> I am not an expert but this smells like duplicating /dev/kmsg. If
> I remember correctly since about Linux 3.5 /dev/kmsg is writable for the
> user-space and every single process (modulo MAC/DAC) can log there. The
> messages from user-space are preserved accross reboots as a part of the
> kmsg/printk buffer anyway.
>
> What is the advantege of pmsg0 over /dev/kmsg?

- Precious little user-space content goes to kmsg (otherwise you can ask 
why is there a syslogd?), there is a reason for this, user space is 
notorious for containing Personal Identifiable Information whereas 
kernel information does not.
- pmsg0 can take a lot of content (with a ramoops backend) and will not 
disrupt/DOS the kernel logs.
- State, Binary or packetized content can go to /dev/pmsg0 and not 
interfere with the text content in kmsg
- /dev/pmsg0 write is atomic
- /dev/pmsg0 is write only, there is no access to the live content 
_unless_ there is a reboot.
- Personal identification which abounds in user space could be placed 
into /dev/pmsg0, and there is no way except a reboot in order to extract 
the content, and then /sys/fs/pstore/pmsg-ramoops-0 can be deleted, or 
heavily MAC and DAC controlled to enforce protection (doing so to kmsg 
would be unlivable)

Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn
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