Re: [RFC] arch: Introduce new TSO memory barrier smp_tmb()

From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Date: Sun Nov 03 2013 - 15:59:35 EST


On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 16:17 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 06:40:17AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > If there was an smp_tmb(), I would likely use it in rcu_assign_pointer().
>
> Well, I'm obviously all for introducing this new barrier, for it will
> reduce a full mfence on x86 to a compiler barrier. And ppc can use
> lwsync as opposed to sync afaict. Not sure ARM can do better.

The patch at the *very least* needs a good description of the semantics
of the barrier, what does it order vs. what etc...

Cheers,
Ben.

> ---
> Subject: arch: Introduce new TSO memory barrier smp_tmb()
>
> A few sites could be downgraded from smp_mb() to smp_tmb() and a few
> site should be upgraded to smp_tmb() that are now using smp_wmb().
>
> XXX hope PaulMck explains things better..
>
> X86 (!OOSTORE), SPARC have native TSO memory models and smp_tmb()
> reduces to barrier().
>
> PPC can use lwsync instead of sync
>
> For the other archs, have smp_tmb map to smp_mb, as the stronger barrier
> is always correct but possibly suboptimal.
>
> Suggested-by: Paul McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Not-Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> ---
> arch/alpha/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/arc/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/arm/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/arm64/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/avr32/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/blackfin/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/cris/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/frv/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/h8300/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/hexagon/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/ia64/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/m32r/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/m68k/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/metag/include/asm/barrier.h | 3 +++
> arch/microblaze/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/mips/include/asm/barrier.h | 3 +++
> arch/mn10300/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/parisc/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/s390/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/score/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/sh/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_32.h | 1 +
> arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_64.h | 3 +++
> arch/tile/include/asm/barrier.h | 2 ++
> arch/unicore32/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h | 3 +++
> arch/xtensa/include/asm/barrier.h | 1 +
> 28 files changed, 48 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/arch/alpha/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/alpha/include/asm/barrier.h
> index ce8860a0b32d..02ea63897038 100644
> --- a/arch/alpha/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/alpha/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -18,12 +18,14 @@ __asm__ __volatile__("mb": : :"memory")
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define __ASM_SMP_MB "\tmb\n"
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #else
> #define __ASM_SMP_MB
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while (0)
> diff --git a/arch/arc/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/arc/include/asm/barrier.h
> index f6cb7c4ffb35..456c790fa1ad 100644
> --- a/arch/arc/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/arc/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -22,10 +22,12 @@
> /* TODO-vineetg verify the correctness of macros here */
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #endif
> diff --git a/arch/arm/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/arm/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 60f15e274e6d..bc88a8505673 100644
> --- a/arch/arm/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/arm/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -51,10 +51,12 @@
>
> #ifndef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() dmb(ish)
> +#define smp_tmb() smp_mb()
> #define smp_rmb() smp_mb()
> #define smp_wmb() dmb(ishst)
> #endif
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/barrier.h
> index d4a63338a53c..ec0531f4892f 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -33,10 +33,12 @@
>
> #ifndef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() asm volatile("dmb ish" : : : "memory")
> +#define smp_tmb() asm volatile("dmb ish" : : : "memory")
> #define smp_rmb() asm volatile("dmb ishld" : : : "memory")
> #define smp_wmb() asm volatile("dmb ishst" : : : "memory")
> #endif
> diff --git a/arch/avr32/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/avr32/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 0961275373db..6c6ccb9cf290 100644
> --- a/arch/avr32/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/avr32/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
> # error "The AVR32 port does not support SMP"
> #else
> # define smp_mb() barrier()
> +# define smp_tmb() barrier()
> # define smp_rmb() barrier()
> # define smp_wmb() barrier()
> # define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/blackfin/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/blackfin/include/asm/barrier.h
> index ebb189507dd7..100f49121a18 100644
> --- a/arch/blackfin/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/blackfin/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -40,6 +40,7 @@
> #endif /* !CONFIG_SMP */
>
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define set_mb(var, value) do { var = value; mb(); } while (0)
> diff --git a/arch/cris/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/cris/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 198ad7fa6b25..679c33738b4c 100644
> --- a/arch/cris/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/cris/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -12,11 +12,13 @@
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/frv/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/frv/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 06776ad9f5e9..60354ce13ba0 100644
> --- a/arch/frv/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/frv/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
> #define read_barrier_depends() do { } while (0)
>
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do {} while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/h8300/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/h8300/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 9e0aa9fc195d..e8e297fa4e9a 100644
> --- a/arch/h8300/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/h8300/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -16,11 +16,13 @@
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/hexagon/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/hexagon/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 1041a8e70ce8..2dd5b2ad4d21 100644
> --- a/arch/hexagon/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/hexagon/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> #define smp_mb__before_atomic_dec() barrier()
> #define smp_mb__after_atomic_dec() barrier()
> diff --git a/arch/ia64/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/ia64/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 60576e06b6fb..a5f92146b091 100644
> --- a/arch/ia64/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/ia64/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -42,11 +42,13 @@
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> # define smp_mb() mb()
> +# define smp_tmb() mb()
> # define smp_rmb() rmb()
> # define smp_wmb() wmb()
> # define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #else
> # define smp_mb() barrier()
> +# define smp_tmb() barrier()
> # define smp_rmb() barrier()
> # define smp_wmb() barrier()
> # define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/m32r/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/m32r/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 6976621efd3f..a6fa29facd7a 100644
> --- a/arch/m32r/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/m32r/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -79,12 +79,14 @@
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #define set_mb(var, value) do { (void) xchg(&var, value); } while (0)
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while (0)
> diff --git a/arch/m68k/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/m68k/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 445ce22c23cb..8ecf52c87847 100644
> --- a/arch/m68k/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/m68k/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
> #define set_mb(var, value) ({ (var) = (value); wmb(); })
>
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() ((void)0)
> diff --git a/arch/metag/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/metag/include/asm/barrier.h
> index c90bfc6bf648..eb179fbce580 100644
> --- a/arch/metag/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/metag/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ static inline void wmb(void)
> #ifndef CONFIG_SMP
> #define fence() do { } while (0)
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #else
> @@ -70,11 +71,13 @@ static inline void fence(void)
> *flushptr = 0;
> }
> #define smp_mb() fence()
> +#define smp_tmb() fence()
> #define smp_rmb() fence()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #else
> #define fence() do { } while (0)
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #endif
> diff --git a/arch/microblaze/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/microblaze/include/asm/barrier.h
> index df5be3e87044..d573c170a717 100644
> --- a/arch/microblaze/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/microblaze/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@
> #define set_wmb(var, value) do { var = value; wmb(); } while (0)
>
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
>
> diff --git a/arch/mips/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/mips/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 314ab5532019..535e699eec3b 100644
> --- a/arch/mips/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/mips/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -144,15 +144,18 @@
> #if defined(CONFIG_WEAK_ORDERING) && defined(CONFIG_SMP)
> # ifdef CONFIG_CPU_CAVIUM_OCTEON
> # define smp_mb() __sync()
> +# define smp_tmb() __sync()
> # define smp_rmb() barrier()
> # define smp_wmb() __syncw()
> # else
> # define smp_mb() __asm__ __volatile__("sync" : : :"memory")
> +# define smp_tmb() __asm__ __volatile__("sync" : : :"memory")
> # define smp_rmb() __asm__ __volatile__("sync" : : :"memory")
> # define smp_wmb() __asm__ __volatile__("sync" : : :"memory")
> # endif
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #endif
> diff --git a/arch/mn10300/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/mn10300/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 2bd97a5c8af7..a345b0776e5f 100644
> --- a/arch/mn10300/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/mn10300/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -19,11 +19,13 @@
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define set_mb(var, value) do { xchg(&var, value); } while (0)
> #else /* CONFIG_SMP */
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define set_mb(var, value) do { var = value; mb(); } while (0)
> diff --git a/arch/parisc/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/parisc/include/asm/barrier.h
> index e77d834aa803..f53196b589ec 100644
> --- a/arch/parisc/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/parisc/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
> #define rmb() mb()
> #define wmb() mb()
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() mb()
> #define smp_wmb() mb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h
> index ae782254e731..d7e8a560f1fe 100644
> --- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -46,11 +46,13 @@
> #endif
>
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() __asm__ __volatile__ (stringify_in_c(LWSYNC) : : :"memory")
> #define smp_rmb() __asm__ __volatile__ (stringify_in_c(LWSYNC) : : :"memory")
> #define smp_wmb() __asm__ __volatile__ (stringify_in_c(SMPWMB) : : :"memory")
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/s390/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/s390/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 16760eeb79b0..f0409a874243 100644
> --- a/arch/s390/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/s390/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
> #define wmb() mb()
> #define read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> diff --git a/arch/score/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/score/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 0eacb6471e6d..865652083dde 100644
> --- a/arch/score/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/score/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
> #define rmb() barrier()
> #define wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
>
> diff --git a/arch/sh/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/sh/include/asm/barrier.h
> index 72c103dae300..f8dce7926432 100644
> --- a/arch/sh/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/sh/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -39,11 +39,13 @@
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_32.h b/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_32.h
> index c1b76654ee76..1037ce189cee 100644
> --- a/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_32.h
> +++ b/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_32.h
> @@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
> #define read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> #define set_mb(__var, __value) do { __var = __value; mb(); } while(0)
> #define smp_mb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> +#define smp_tmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #define smp_rmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #define smp_wmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> diff --git a/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_64.h b/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_64.h
> index 95d45986f908..0f3c2fdb86b8 100644
> --- a/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_64.h
> +++ b/arch/sparc/include/asm/barrier_64.h
> @@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ do { __asm__ __volatile__("ba,pt %%xcc, 1f\n\t" \
> * memory ordering than required by the specifications.
> */
> #define mb() membar_safe("#StoreLoad")
> +#define tmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #define rmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #define wmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
>
> @@ -43,10 +44,12 @@ do { __asm__ __volatile__("ba,pt %%xcc, 1f\n\t" \
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() tmb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> +#define smp_tmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #define smp_rmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #define smp_wmb() __asm__ __volatile__("":::"memory")
> #endif
> diff --git a/arch/tile/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/tile/include/asm/barrier.h
> index a9a73da5865d..cad3c6ae28bf 100644
> --- a/arch/tile/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/tile/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -127,11 +127,13 @@ mb_incoherent(void)
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> #define smp_mb() mb()
> +#define smp_tmb() mb()
> #define smp_rmb() rmb()
> #define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while (0)
> diff --git a/arch/unicore32/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/unicore32/include/asm/barrier.h
> index a6620e5336b6..8b341fffbda6 100644
> --- a/arch/unicore32/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/unicore32/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@
> #define rmb() barrier()
> #define wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define read_barrier_depends() do { } while (0)
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> index c6cd358a1eec..480201d83af1 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -86,14 +86,17 @@
> # define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #endif
> #ifdef CONFIG_X86_OOSTORE
> +# define smp_tmb() mb()
> # define smp_wmb() wmb()
> #else
> +# define smp_tmb() barrier()
> # define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #endif
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() read_barrier_depends()
> #define set_mb(var, value) do { (void)xchg(&var, value); } while (0)
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while (0)
> diff --git a/arch/xtensa/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/xtensa/include/asm/barrier.h
> index ef021677d536..7839db843ea5 100644
> --- a/arch/xtensa/include/asm/barrier.h
> +++ b/arch/xtensa/include/asm/barrier.h
> @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
> #error smp_* not defined
> #else
> #define smp_mb() barrier()
> +#define smp_tmb() barrier()
> #define smp_rmb() barrier()
> #define smp_wmb() barrier()
> #endif
>
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/