Re: getnstimeofday stuck for several milliseconds?

From: John Stultz
Date: Mon Nov 12 2012 - 19:09:29 EST


On 11/12/2012 03:53 PM, John Stultz wrote:
On 11/05/2012 12:51 AM, David Henningsson wrote:
Hi LKML,

I'm trying to make audio more useful in everyday low-latency scenarios such as gaming or VOIP.

While doing so, I ran the wakeup_rt tracer, to track the time from PulseAudio requesting wakeup (through hrtimers), to the thread actually running.

I'm not sure how much overhead added by the wakeup_rt tracer itself, but I got 9 ms on one machine and 20 ms on another, which I consider to be quite a lot even for a standard kernel (i e without RT or other special configuration).

The 9 ms example is pastebinned at [1], and here's where we get stuck for most of the time:

<idle>-0 3d... 1105us : ktime_get_real <-intel_idle
<idle>-0 3d... 1106us!: getnstimeofday <-ktime_get_real
<idle>-0 3d... 7823us : ktime_get_real <-intel_idle

<idle>-0 3d... 7890us : ktime_get_real <-intel_idle
<idle>-0 3d... 7891us!: getnstimeofday <-ktime_get_real
<idle>-0 3d... 9023us : ktime_get_real <-intel_idle


Looking at the trace you posted here: http://pastebin.se/6iMRdDfR

The trace also looks like its the cpuidle to interrupt transition where you're seeing this. I sort of wonder if its mis-attributing the idle time to the getnstimeofday()? Mainly because you don't seem to spend much time in intel_idle() otherwise.

Or maybe we're both misreading it and its saying there's a delay between the first ktime_get_real() from intel_idle() to the second call of ktime_get_real(), between which we're in deep idle (which would make sense)?

The more I think about it, I'm pretty sure this is the case:
The full context you need is:
<idle>-0 3d... 7890us : ktime_get_real <-intel_idle
<idle>-0 3d... 7891us!: getnstimeofday <-ktime_get_real
<idle>-0 3d... 9023us : ktime_get_real <-intel_idle
<idle>-0 3d... 9024us : getnstimeofday <-ktime_get_real

Where intel_idle() is calling ktime_get_real twice in a row, and inbetween we see a large latency. Looking at intel_idle() the code in question is:

kt_before = ktime_get_real();

stop_critical_timings();
if (!need_resched()) {

__monitor((void *)&current_thread_info()->flags, 0, 0);
smp_mb();
if (!need_resched())
__mwait(eax, ecx);
}

start_critical_timings();

kt_after = ktime_get_real();


Where we're basically timing how long we were in idle for.

So I think the problem is just misreading the trace output.

thanks
-john




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