Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] KVM: introduce "xinterface" API for external interactionwith guests

From: Avi Kivity
Date: Tue Oct 06 2009 - 05:36:26 EST


On 10/06/2009 01:57 AM, Gregory Haskins wrote:
Avi Kivity wrote:
On 10/02/2009 10:19 PM, Gregory Haskins wrote:
What: xinterface is a mechanism that allows kernel modules external to
the kvm.ko proper to interface with a running guest. It accomplishes
this by creating an abstracted interface which does not expose any
private details of the guest or its related KVM structures, and provides
a mechanism to find and bind to this interface at run-time.

If this is needed, it should be done as a virt_address_space to which
kvm and other modules bind, instead of as something that kvm exports and
other modules import. The virt_address_space can be identified by an fd
and passed around to kvm and other modules.
IIUC, what you are proposing is something similar to generalizing the
vbus::memctx object. I had considered doing something like that in the
early design phase of vbus, but then decided it would be a hard-sell to
the mm crowd, and difficult to generalize.

What do you propose as the interface to program the object?

Something like the current kvm interfaces, de-warted. It will be a hard sell indeed, for good reasons.

So, under my suggestion above, you'd call
sys_create_virt_address_space(), populate it, and pass the result to kvm
and to foo. This allows the use of virt_address_space without kvm and
doesn't require foo to interact with kvm.
The problem I see here is that the only way I can think to implement
this generally is something that looks very kvm-esque (slots-to-pages
kind of translation). Is there a way you can think of that does not
involve a kvm.ko originated vtable that is also not kvm centric?

slots would be one implementation, if you can think of others then you'd add them.

If you can't, I think it indicates that the whole thing isn't necessary and we're better off with slots and virtual memory. The only thing missing is dma, which you don't deal with anyway.

+struct kvm_xinterface_ops {
+ unsigned long (*copy_to)(struct kvm_xinterface *intf,
+ unsigned long gpa, const void *src,
+ unsigned long len);
+ unsigned long (*copy_from)(struct kvm_xinterface *intf, void *dst,
+ unsigned long gpa, unsigned long len);
+ struct kvm_xvmap* (*vmap)(struct kvm_xinterface *intf,
+ unsigned long gpa,
+ unsigned long len);

How would vmap() work with live migration?
vmap represents shmem regions, and is a per-guest-instance resource. So
my plan there is that the new and old guest instance would each have the
vmap region instated at the same GPA location (assumption: gpas are
stable across migration), and any state relevant data local to the shmem
(like ring head/tail position) is conveyed in the serialized stream for
the device model.

You'd have to copy the entire range since you don't know what the guest might put there. I guess it's acceptable for small areas.

+
+static inline void
+_kvm_xinterface_release(struct kref *kref)
+{
+ struct kvm_xinterface *intf;
+ struct module *owner;
+
+ intf = container_of(kref, struct kvm_xinterface, kref);
+
+ owner = intf->owner;
+ rmb();

Why rmb?
the intf->ops->release() line may invalidate the intf pointer, so we
want to ensure that the read completes before the release() is called.

TBH: I'm not 100% its needed, but I was being conservative.

rmb()s are only needed if an external agent can issue writes, otherwise you'd need one after every statement.





A simple per-vcpu cache (in struct kvm_vcpu) is likely to give better
results.
per-vcpu will not work well here, unfortunately, since this is an
external interface mechanism. The callers will generally be from a
kthread or some other non-vcpu related context. Even if we could figure
out a vcpu to use as a basis, we would require some kind of
heavier-weight synchronization which would not be as desirable.

Therefore, I opted to go per-cpu and use the presumably lighterweight
get_cpu/put_cpu() instead.

This just assumes a low context switch rate.

How about a gfn_to_pfn_cached(..., struct gfn_to_pfn_cache *cache)? Each user can place it in a natural place.

+static unsigned long
+xinterface_copy_to(struct kvm_xinterface *intf, unsigned long gpa,
+ const void *src, unsigned long n)
+{
+ struct _xinterface *_intf = to_intf(intf);
+ unsigned long dst;
+ bool kthread = !current->mm;
+
+ down_read(&_intf->kvm->slots_lock);
+
+ dst = gpa_to_hva(_intf, gpa);
+ if (!dst)
+ goto out;
+
+ if (kthread)
+ use_mm(_intf->mm);
+
+ if (kthread || _intf->mm == current->mm)
+ n = copy_to_user((void *)dst, src, n);
+ else
+ n = _slow_copy_to_user(_intf, dst, src, n);

Can't you switch the mm temporarily instead of this?
Thats actually what I do for the fast-path (use_mm() does a switch_to()
internally).

The slow-path is only there for completeness for when switching is not
possible (such as if called with an mm already active i.e.
process-context).

Still, why can't you switch temporarily?

In practice, however, this doesnt happen. Virtually
100% of the calls in vbus hit the fast-path here, and I suspect most
xinterface clients would find the same conditions as well.

So you have 100% untested code here.

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error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

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