Re: [PATCH 10/30] cr: core stuff

From: Serge E. Hallyn
Date: Tue Apr 14 2009 - 11:30:22 EST


Quoting Oren Laadan (orenl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx):
>
> Hi,
>
> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Alexey Dobriyan (adobriyan@xxxxxxxxx):
> >
> > Hi Alexey,
> >
> > as far as I can see, the main differences between this patch and the
> > equivalent in Oren's tree are:
> >
> > 1. kernel auto-selects container init to freeze
>
> Actually, this eliminates the possibility to checkpoint a subtree of
> tasks, which (under some obvious constraints) can be a handy feature.

Yes, I agree. As Dave pointed out on irc yesterday, this patch shows a
very definate whole-container-only point of view which is worth
discussing.

> > 2. kernel freezes tasks
>
> IMHO better to do it in userspace - that way userspace can accomplish
> other tasks while tasks are frozen, such as snapshot the filesystem,
> or block/unblock the network.

That's a good point.

> Is there a good argument to do it kernel ?

Convenience? I guess you don't have to worry about getting your
checkpoint job into a cgroup by itself ahead of time.

> > 3. no objhash taking references
> > 4. no hbuf
> > 5. always require CAP_SYS_ADMIN
>
> I'm now convinced (thanks, Serge!) that it's better not to require
> this unless we strictly have to.

:) Cool.

I think the perceived need for it comes, as above, from the pure
checkpoint-a-whole-container-only view. So long as you will
checkpoint/restore a whole container, then you'll end up doing
something requiring privilege anyway. But that is not all of
the use cases.

-serge
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