Re: Does process need to have a kernel-side stack all the time?

From: Ingo Molnar
Date: Wed Apr 16 2008 - 08:47:51 EST



* Andi Kleen <andi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > A lot of effort went into minimizing of stack usage.
> > If I understand it correctly, one of the reasons for this
> > was to be efficient and not have lots of pages
> > used for stacks when we have a lot of threads
> > (tens of thousands).
>
> Actually the real reason the 4K stacks were introduced IIRC was that
> the VM is not very good at allocation of order > 0 pages and that only
> using order 0 and not order 1 in normal operation prevented some
> stalls.

no, the primary motivation Arjan and me started working on 4K stacks and
implemented it was what Denys mentioned: i had a testcase that ran
50,000 threads before it ran out of memory - i wanted it to run 100,000
threads. The improved order-0 behavior was just icing on the cake.

Ingo
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