Re: [CALL FOR TESTING] Make Ext3 fsck way faster [2.6.24-rc6 -mm patch]

From: Daniel Phillips
Date: Thu Jan 24 2008 - 14:05:33 EST


On Sunday 20 January 2008 18:51, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:10:20PM -0800, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > I can see value in preemptively loading indirect blocks into the
> > buffer cache, but is building a second-order extent tree really
> > worth the effort? Probing the buffer cache is very fast.
>
> It's not that much effort, and for a big database (say, like a 50GB
> database file), the indirect blocks would take up 50 megabytes of
> memory. Collapsing it into an extent tree would save that memory
> into a few kilobytes. I suppose a database server would probably
> have 5-10GB's of memory, so the grand scheme of things it's not a
> vast amount of memory, but the trick is keeping the indirect blocks
> pinned so they don't get pushed out by some vast, gigunndo Java
> application running in the same server as the database. If you have
> the indirect blocks encoded into the extent tree, then you don't have
> to worry about that.

Hi Ted,

OK I think you are right, because this is a nice step towards developing
an on-disk extent format for Ext4 that avoids committing design
mistakes to permanent storage. The benefit can be proven using a pure
cache, in order to justify the considerable work necessary to make it
persistent.

Chris and Jens have an effort going to implement a physical disk extent
cache for loop.c. It is actually the same problem, and I smell a
library here.

Issue: how do you propose to make this cache evictable?

Regards,

Daniel
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/