Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter)

[David Woodhouse]

On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 14:49 +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
> Separating tasks into distinct processes, to prevent rampant list
> drivers from messing with the MTA and vice versa.

We're talking about _one_ task; receiving mail to one address, and
delivering it to other addresses. That's what the MTA _does_ -- all it
needs from the mailing list side is the list of recipients.

I wouldn't want to put all the bounce processing &c into the MTA, but
basic handling of list traffic does make a certain amount of sense. In
expanding a simple list, there isn't much scope for 'rampant list
drivers' to screw anything up.

> I'm also not convinced greylisting is a "solution". Once it catches on,
> spammers will retry. They control enough drones where smashing out
> successful deliveries from their address list and retrying them will
> work for them. 

You may be right. But still, it keeps us ahead of the game and it's very
effective right now -- partly because lots of people still _aren't_
using it. It does require a modicum of clue to implement.

I think it'll be a long time before greylisting is no longer beneficial,
if it ever does happen.

-- 
dwmw2

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