Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core

[Vitaly Wool]

Greg KH wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 01:23:32AM +0300, Vitaly Wool wrote:
>  
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> > Greg KH wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:42AM +0300, Vitaly Wool wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > David Brownell wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > >
> > > > > No, "stupid drivers will suffer"; nothing new.  Just observe
> > > > > how the ads7846 touchscreen driver does small async transfers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >    
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > One cannot allocate memory in interrupt context, so the way to go is 
> > > > allocating it on stack, thus the buffer is not DMA-safe.
> > > > Making it DMA-safe in thread that does the very message processing is a 
> > > > good way of overcoming this.
> > > > Using preallocated buffer is not a good way, since it may well be
> > > > already used by another interrupt or not yet processed by the worker
> > > > thread (or tasklet, or whatever).
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > Yes it is a good way.  That's the way USB currently works in the kernel,
> > > and it works just fine.  It keeps the rules simple and everyone knows
> > > what needs to be done.
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > Looking at my usbnet stuff, I can't share that opinion :-/
> > Are you really ready to lower the performance and quality of service 
> > just for approach uniformity?
> >    
>
> What performance issues?  As an example, USB has this rule, and we can
> saturate a 480Mbit line with a _userspace_ driver (loads of memcopy
> calles involved there.)
>  
What CPU is used there? I guess it's not 144 MHz ARM ;-)

>  
>
> > And, can you please point me out the examples of devices behind USB bus 
> > that need to write registers from an interrupt context?
> >    
>
> usb to serial drivers need to allocate buffers for their write functions
> as they can be called in irq context from a tty line dicipline, which
> causes a USB packet to be dynamically created and sent to the USB core.
> I also think the USB network and ATM drivers have these requirements
> too, just search for GFP_ATOMIC in the drivers/usb/ directory to find
> these instances.
>  
Oh BTW... I'm experiencing constant problems with root filesystem over 
NFS over usbnet on my target
I'm getting "server not responding, still trying" error whenever the 
system (208-MHz ARM926 board) is under heavy load.
I think it may well be related to the thing we discuss.

Vitaly
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