Re: [RFC - 0/9] Generic timekeeping subsystem (v. B5)

From: john stultz
Date: Fri Aug 19 2005 - 21:33:51 EST


On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 02:27 +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, john stultz wrote:
> > Maybe to focus this productively, I'll try to step back and outline the
> > goals at a high level and you can address those.
> >
> > My Assumptions:
> > 1. adjtimex() sets/gets NTP state values
> > 2. Every tick we adjust those state values
> > 3. Every tick we use those values to make a nanosecond adjustment to
> > time.
> > 4. Those state values are otherwise unused.
> >
> > Goals:
> > 1. Isolate NTP code to clean up the tick based timekeeping, reducing the
> > spaghetti-like code interactions.
> > 2. Add interfaces to allow for continuous, rather then tick based,
> > adjustments (much how ppc64 does currently, only shareable).
>
> Cleaning up the code would be nice, but that shouldn't be the priority
> right now, first we should get the math right.
> I looked a bit more on this aspect of your patch and I think it's overly
> complex even for continuous time sources. You can reduce the complexity
> by updating the clock in more regular intervals.

I feel in some ways I do this (inside the second overflow loop), but
maybe I'm misunderstanding you.


> What basically is needed to update in constant intervals (n cycles) a
> reference time controlled via NTP and the system time. The difference
> between those two can be used to adjust the cycle multiplier for the next
> n cycles to speed up or slow down the system clock.
> Calculating the offset in constant intervals makes the math a lot simpler,
> basically the current code is just a special case of that, where it
> directly updates the system time from the reference time at every tick.
> (In the end the differences between tick based and continuous sources may
> be even smaller than your current patches suggest. :) )

That would be great! So, would you mind helping me scratch out some
pseudo code for your idea?

Currently we have something like:
===============================================
do_adjtimex():
set ntp_status/maxerror/esterror/constant values
set ntp_freq
set ntp_tick
if (singleshot_mode):
set ntp_adjtime_offset
else:
set ntp_offset
if appropriate, adjust ntp_freq


timer_interrupt():
if (second_overflow):
adjust ntp_maxerror/status
/* calculate per tick phase adjustment
using ntp_offset and ntp_freq
*/
sub_offset = math(ntp_offset)
ntp_offset -= sub_offset
phase_adj = math(sub_offset)
phase_adj += math(ntp_freq)

leapsecond_stuff()

tick_adjustment = 0;

/* calculate singleshot adjustment */
if (ntp_adjtime_offset):
adj = min(ntp_adjtime_offset, tick_adj)
ntp_adjtime_offset -= adj

tick_adjustment += adj

/* calculate the phase adjustment */
phase += phase_adj
if (phase > UNIT):
phase -= UNIT
tick_adjustment += UNIT


xtime += ntp_tick + tick_adjustment



gettimeofday():
return xtime + hardware_offset()




For continuous timesources, I'd like to see something like:
===============================================
do_adjtimex():
no changes, only the addition of
ntp_tick_ppm = calulate_ppm(ntp_tick)


timekeeping_perioidic_hook():

/* get ntp adjusted interval length*/
interval_length = get_timesource_interval(ppm)

/* accumulate the NTP adjusted interval */
xtime += interval_length

/* inform NTP state machine that we have
applied the last calculated adjustment for
the interval length
*/

ntp_interval += interval_length
while (ntp_interval > SECOND): /* just like second_overflow */
adjust ntp_maxerror/status
/* calculate the offset ppm adjustment */
sub_offset = math(ntp_offset)
ntp_offset -= sub_offset
offset_ppm = math(sub_offset)

/* same thing for single shot ntp_adjtime_offset */
sub_ss_offset = math(ntp_adjtime_offset)
ntp_adjtime_offset -= sub_ss_offset
ss_offset_ppm = math(sub_ss_offset)


/* sum up the ppm adjustments into a single ntp adjustment */
ppm = offset_ppm + ntp_freq + ss_offset_ppm + ntp_tick_ppm

leapsecond_stuff()

do_gettimeofday():
interval = get_timesource_interval(ppm)
return xtime + interval



Now could you adapt this to better show me what you're thinking of?

thanks
-john




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