Re: Suspend 2 merge

From: Pavel Machek
Date: Mon Nov 29 2004 - 17:56:09 EST


Hi!

> > >>>:> But not everyone who uses 2.6.9 uses swsusp. :>
> >
> > and not everyone who downloads suspend2 uses it ;-)
>
> Yes... I'd say the relative percentage would be much higher, though.

Agreed.

> > > change a parameter or forcing them to do an ls in /dev with obscure
> > > parameters (to get the major and minor numbers) when they already know
> > > they want /dev/sda1 isn't user friendly. Obviously user friendliness is
> >
> > This can easily be done by a userspace helper. You do use the
> > (userspace) X server to display your GUI, don't you?
>
> No. Not at all. All of userspace is well and truly wedged in a block of
> ice by then.

I think that was not what Stefan wanted to say.

> Regarding acceptance, there's no point in getting it accepted into the
> kernel if we end up with something that's user-unfriendly. I think it
> will help a lot if we agree that suspend does need to blur the lines
> between kernel and userspace a little, in the interests of providing
> software that is superior.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I do not think suspend
is special enough to blur the lines...
Pavel
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