Re: mode data=journal in ext3. Is it safe to use?

From: Tim Connors
Date: Wed Jun 16 2004 - 22:04:17 EST


Daniel Pittman <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said on Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:51:54 +1000:
> XFS, with the "null out data on recovery" mode, is less reliable than
> ext3, full stop. It routinely destroys data in real world situations, a
> secure, but irritating, choice.

And please tell me -- the point of journalling is to reduce fsck times
upon failure - particularly important if you have 14TB of raid (yes,
we had to fsck after a recent downtime, and it had been > 180 days -
took half the day). What is the point of journalling if you have to
compare and restore against backup everytime the power fails? This is
slower than a mere fsckage.

FYI, I think jfs has the same behaviour as xfs - I do notice a
distinct lack of usage of a /lost+found, which has been important to
me in the past.

> ext3 remains the only journaling filesystem that I would, personally,
> put any great degree of faith in, since it is still developed in a
> cautious and safe fashion, and has a focus on getting the tools to
> verify correctness in place before enabling kernel-side features.
>
>
> Obviously, your millage may vary on these topics, as presumably have
> your experiences.

Sounds about right :)

Next time I reformat/get a new drive, I'll be going back to ext3 -
never caused any problems for me.

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