Re: [PATCH] Minor scheduler fix to get rid of skipping in xmms

From: Nick Piggin
Date: Thu Sep 11 2003 - 06:06:56 EST




Andrew Theurer wrote:

Robert Love <rml@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There are a _lot_ of scheduler changes in 2.6-mm, and who knows which
ones are an improvement, a detriment, and a noop?


We know that sched-2.6.0-test2-mm2-A3.patch caused the regression, and
we now that sched-CAN_MIGRATE_TASK-fix.patch mostly fixed it up.


What we don't know is whether the thing which
sched-CAN_MIGRATE_TASK-fix.patch
fixed was the thing which sched-2.6.0-test2-mm2-A3.patch broke.


Sorry for jumping into this late. I didn't even know the can_migrate patch was being discussed, let alone in -mm :). And to be fair, this really is Ingo's aggressive idle steal patch.

Anyway, these patches are somewhat related. It would seem that A3's shortening the tasks' run time would not only slow performance beacuse of cache thrash, but could possibly break CAN_MIGRATE's cache warmth check, right? That in turn would stop load balancing from working well, leading to more idle time, which the CAN_MIGRATE patch sort of bypassed for idle cpus.


Yeah thats probably right. Good thinking.


I see Nick's balance patch as somewhat harmless, at least combined with A3 patch. However, one concern is that the "ping-pong" steal interval is not really 200ms, but 200ms/(nr_cpus-1), which without A3, could show up as a problem, especially on an 8 way box. In addition, I do think there's a problem with num tasks we steal. It should not be imbalance/2, it should be: max_load - (node_nr_running / num_cpus_node). If we steal any more than this, which is quite possible with imbalance/2, then it's likely this_cpu now has too many tasks, and some other cpu will steal again. Using *imbalance/2 works fine on 2-way smp, but I'm pretty sure we "over steal" tasks on 4 way and up. Anyway, I'm getting off topic here...


IIRC max_load is supposed to be the number of tasks on the runqueue
being stolen from, isn't it?


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