Re: [PATCH 2/3] High-res-timers part 2 (x86 platform code) take 5.1

From: Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com)
Date: Thu Oct 10 2002 - 10:03:06 EST


george anzinger <george@mvista.com> writes:

> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, george anzinger wrote:
> > >
> > > This patch, in conjunction with the "core" high-res-timers
> > > patch implements high resolution timers on the i386
> > > platforms.
> >
> > I really don't get the notion of partial ticks, and quite frankly, this
> > isn't going into my tree until some major distribution kicks me in the
> > head and explains to me why the hell we have partial ticks instead of just
> > making the ticks shorter.
> >
> Well, the notion is to provide timers that have resolution
> down into the micro seconds. Since this take a bit more
> overhead, we just set up an interrupt on an as needed
> basis. This is why we define both a high res and a low res
> clock. Timers on the low res clock will always use the 1/HZ
> tick to drive them and thus do not introduce any additional
> overhead. If this is all that is needed the configure
> option can be left off and only these timers will be
> available.
>
> On the other hand, if a user requires better resolution,
> s/he just turns on the high-res option and incures the
> overhead only when it is used and then only at timer expire
> time. Note that the only way to access a high-res timer is
> via the POSIX clocks and timers API. They are not available
> to select or any other system call.
>
> Making ticks shorter causes extra overhead ALL the time,
> even when it is not needed. Higher resolution is not free
> in any case, but it is much closer to free with this patch
> than by increasing HZ (which, of course, can still be
> done). Overhead wise and resolution wise, for timers, we
> would be better off with a 1/HZ tick and the "on demand"
> high-res interrupts this patch introduces.

??? The issue of ticks is separate from the issue of how often
timer interrupts fire. Ticks just becomes the maximum resolution
you can support/express.

If it makes sense to have two maximum tick resolutions. The normal
application maximum tick rate and the special task maximum tick
rate it is probably worth making this only available as a capability
or an rlimit.

Eric

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