Re: Hardwired drivers are going away?

From: Mr. James W. Laferriere (babydr@baby-dragons.com)
Date: Mon Jan 14 2002 - 14:14:31 EST


        Hello Alan ,

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > Urban legend.
> > I do not agree . Got proof ? Yes that is a valid question .
> Most of the rootkit type stuff I see nowdays includes code for loading
> patches into module free kernels. Its a real no win. The better ones support
> regexp scanning so they can patch kernels where the sysadmin thinks he/she
> is cool and has hidden or crapped in System.map
        Same as I am seeing . This does not eleviate the fact that
        modules can & are a still a security issue . Yes , sloppy
        administration is still the biggest culprit in 'most' compromises .

> > > > case becouse the system can't know where the module will be located IIRC)
> > > I defy you to measure it on x86
> > OK ,How about sparc-64/alpha/ia64/... ?
> Not generally found in your grandmothers PC
        No, But it is -mine- ! If I can not have complete control over
        my system due to the way the Fathers of this operating system
        are taking it I will have no choice but to use another or be stuck
        at a non-maintained version . Now mind you I LIKE LINUX !

> > > > 3. simplicity in building kernels for other machines. with a monolithic
> > > > kernel you have one file to move (and a bootloader to run) with modules
> > > > you have to move quite a few more files.
> > > tar or nfs mount; make modules_install.
> > Please my laugh'o meter is stuck already . Sorry . JimL
> Then fix it, because the above works well. Also remember that autoconfig
> tools won't be able to guess remote machines very well 8)
        Show me , Please . I am not convinced . I shall try out the new
        level of kernel without a doubt . But , I find the concept that
        -everything- is dynamic to be wrong . Mind you My opinion .
                Twyl , JimL

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