Questions about task, thread, and tss _struct

From: Donald Dade (don_dade@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 21 2001 - 14:45:17 EST


I have a few points of confusion, and I would deeply appreciate any
clarifications. They concern the three primary structures task_struct,
thread_struct, and tss_struct. (in kernel 2.4.x)

1) I am having a difficult time understanding how tss_struct could be moved
out of task_struct (per process basis, as one would expect) to a statically
allocated array (per CPU basis, ???). How can these registers be saved
across context switches, when there are only as many such structures as
there are CPUs? I did not follow the explanation in UTLK.

2) Why the multiple stack pointers and stack segments in tss_struct?

3) What is esp0 in thread_struct?

4) What are the members suffixed with 'h' in tss_struct? I thought they were
the segment shadow registers until I saw the member __ldth, because I didn't
believe that ldt had a shadow register.

5) Is there a particular reason for the double underscore convention
prefixing certain members?

Thank you so much for the clarifications that I've received in the past, and
no doubt this one also,

Don Dade

>From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
>To: Greg Ward <gward@python.net>
>CC: bugs@linux-ide.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>Subject: Re: "hde: timeout waiting for DMA": message gone, same behaviour
>Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:53:56 +0200
>
>On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 01:44:02PM -0400, Greg Ward wrote:
> > Having problems with an ATA/100 drive under Linux 2.4.{2,9}.
> >
> > drive: Seagate Barracuda IV 80 GB (ST380021A)
> > motherboard: ASUS A7V (VIA Apollo KT133 chipset)
> > ide0, ide1: VIA VT82C686A
> > ide2, ide3: Promise PDC20265 (these are the ATA/100 interfaces)
> > (all four IDE interfaces are right on the motherboard)
> >
> > I have tried connecting the drive to both ide0 and ide2, with both a
> > 40-conductor and 80-conductor cable.
> >
> > Under 2.4.2, there was a very lengthy delay at boot time with this
> > output:
> > Partition check:
> > hda:hda: timeout waiting for DMA
> > ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 14
> > hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> > [...repeat 2 times...]
> > hda: DMA disabled
> > ide0: reset: success
> > hda1
> >
> > Eventually the system booted, but the drive was really slow (no DMA).
> > When I forced DMA on ("hdparm -d1 /dev/hda"), I got the same lengthy
> > sequence of output as I had at boot time, and eventually the kernel
> > turned DMA off again.
> >
> > So far nothing new -- from the linux-kernel archive, I'm not the first
> > person to report this problem in early 2.4 kernels.
> >
> > Under 2.4.9, the boot-time delay is not quite as long, but it's still
> > there. And it's not nearly as noisy. However, the end-result is the
> > same: DMA is disabled for this drive; it's a lot slower than an ATA/100
> > drive ought to be; if I force DMA back on, the first access to the drive
> > has another looong delay that results in the kernel turning DMA back
> > off. Grumble.
> >
> > This is a brand-new drive and brand-new cable. The motherboard's only
> > about 9 months old.
> >
> > So: is this in fact a kernel problem? or is it more likely to be a cable
> > problem, a motherboard problem, or a hard drive problem?
>
>Do you have the VIA IDE support enabled?
>
>--
>Vojtech Pavlik
>SuSE Labs
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