Re: ext3-2.4-0.9.4

From: Christoph Hellwig (
Date: Thu Jul 26 2001 - 10:02:16 EST

In article <> you wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> An MTA which relies on this is therefore Broken(tm).

> updates, nothing else.

And thus they are broken, all caps don't make that less true.

> And because they do so, and most systems have them,

"and most systems have them"...

> MTAs do NOT care how the file system is internally managed, they only
> rely on the rename operation having completed physically on disk before
> the "my rename call has returned 0" event. They expect that with the
> call returning the rename operation has completed ultimately, finally,
> for good, definitely and the old file will not reappear after a crash.

So they rely on undocumented and non standadisized semantics of some
implementations. I'd call this buggy.


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