Re: lkml subject line

From: Mike A. Harris (
Date: Tue Feb 13 2001 - 06:29:20 EST

On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote:

>> >Is there a mail reader nowadays that doesn't let you do some sort of
>> >filtering?
>> He uses Elm, which as far as I know is obsolete, unmaintained and
>> full of bugs and even has Y2K problems. That is the last I heard
>> anyway. Alan Cox would likely know more, and has perhaps even
>> fixed Elm.
>Elm has maintainers it has the bugs fixed, it just doesnt want to evolve
>any further. Rumours of its death have been greatly exaggerated.

Ok. Didn't know that it was maintained. I knew that you would
set the record straight either way though. ;o)

>> PINE is virtually everywhere, and is a good elm replacement,
>> having been initially based on the elm code... (PINE==Pine Is Not
>> Elm)
>I've played with both pine and mutt. mutt is by the better mail system IMHO,
>but pine has an easier learning curve.

I can't comment there much.. I've used PINE since about 1993 and
fell in love with it after using PMDF in VMS (which sucks by
comparison). PINE by default is simple to use for beginners, but
if you go into setup and enable all the advanced stuff it is
incredibly powerful. I tried mutt once but couldn't handle the
non-intuitive UI. (intuitivity being in the eye of the beholder
of course) ;o)

I know many people who swear by mutt though, but I prefer the
nicer UI of PINE. The only thing I hate about PINE is the
restricted source code license that makes it impossible to
contribute bugfixes effectively. ;o(


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