Re: [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait /notify + callback chains

From: Chaitanya Tumuluri (
Date: Thu Feb 01 2001 - 12:09:08 EST

On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> Hi,
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 05:34:49PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't see any real advantage for disk IO. The real advantage is that
> > > we can have a generic structure that is also usefull in e.g. networking
> > > and can lead to a unified IO buffering scheme (a little like IO-Lite).
> >
> > Networking wants something lighter rather than heavier. Adding tons of
> > base/limit pairs to kiobufs makes it worse not better
> Networking has fundamentally different requirements. In a network
> stack, you want the ability to add fragments to unaligned chunks of
> data to represent headers at any point in the stack.
> In the disk IO case, you basically don't get that (the only thing
> which comes close is raid5 parity blocks). The data which the user
> started with is the data sent out on the wire. You do get some
> interesting cases such as soft raid and LVM, or even in the scsi stack
> if you run out of mailbox space, where you need to send only a
> sub-chunk of the input buffer.

Or the case of BSD-style UIO implementing the readv() and writev() calls.
This may/may-not align perfectly so, address-length lists per page could
be helpful.

I did try an implementation of this for rawio and found that I had to
restrict the a-len lists coming in via the user iovecs to be aligned.

> In that case, having offset/len as the kiobuf limit markers is ideal:
> you can clone a kiobuf header using the same page vector as the
> parent, narrow down the start/end points, and continue down the stack
> without having to copy any part of the page list. If you had the
> offset/len data encoded implicitly into each entry in the sglist, you
> would not be able to do that.

This would solve the issue with UIO, yes. Also, I think Martin Peterson
(mkp) had taken a stab at doing "clone-kiobufs" for LVM at some point.



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