Re: Weirdo stupidity on lk?

From: Matti Aarnio (
Date: Thu Jun 01 2000 - 15:14:56 EST

On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 04:20:26AM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 02:31:47PM -0600, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> > I get bumped off from time to time. According to Alan, this happens if
> > the mail server times out on sending you email, or if an open relay gets
> > detected. All of us suffer from it, so don't feel like you're being
> > picked on.
> But I guess we can agree that who or whatever handles the unsubscribes
> is a bit too trigger happy.

        Semi-automated removal system is rather trigger-happy indeed.

        Lately a lot of people using HOTMAIL are being kicked away
        by two things: 1) Mail quota excess, 2) "transaction failure".
        The latter is some sort of internal problem in the HOTMAIL
        system, but similar seems to occur at several other sites too.
        (No, it isn't due to slow uplink speeds, like some have wondered,
         or then 155Mbit POS is "slow"...)

        A classical main-stay seems to be that some backup MX servers
        for recipient's domain don't consider that domain to be acceptable
        for relaying thru said server.. Do verify your own address by
        using a MX-verify service at:

        This is what has bitten Jeff several times in the past, though
        not lately to my knowledge.

        If somebody wants to run that CGI, I can add their server to that
        driver page.

> Ralf

/Matti Aarnio <>

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