Re: [KBUILD] Re: Announcing CML2, a replacement for the kbuild system

From: Eric S. Raymond (
Date: Fri May 26 2000 - 20:32:17 EST

David Weinehall <>:
> On Sat, 27 May 2000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > I agree; why CAN'T we configure the linux kernel more like we do the
> > > BSD ones? Their code and schema is very elegant and simple. And
> >
> > The BSD setup is not end user friendly. There is actually only one
> > fundamental end user problem with our current setup. When a user says
> > 'I want XYZ' it should turn on everything needed to get XYZ.
> Of course, informing the user that it does so and *WHY* would be a good
> idea too. Somewhat like dselect but without all the bugs and hassles
> (dselect has a lot of them, hence I use apt-get instead.)

The tty mode of CML2 gives you this kind of feedback when you hit a
constraint violation. I'm working on making the feedback more informative.

Again, this is the sort of thing that requires an atemporal, declarative
view of the world rather than a temporal, imperative one. Which is why
the change to the CML2 language is really important -- it makes doing
dselect-like things possible.

		<a href="">Eric S. Raymond</a>

We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. -- T.S. Elliot

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