Re: Proposal "LUID"

From: Anton Ivanov (aivanov@eu.level3.net)
Date: Mon Apr 17 2000 - 06:50:50 EST


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It is rumored that on 17-Apr-2000 Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 allbery@kf8nh.apk.net wrote:
>
>> (Hint: luids are required by CCAP/C2 security *standards* for
>> "trusted Unix". They aren't something Linux developers can rewrite to
>> their own tastes; Linux will not be usable in CCAP/C2-compliant
>> environments if the kernel doesn't track LUIDs as defined by CCAP/C2.)
>
> So instead of chosing for security you'll be chosing for a
> piece of paper?
>
> I'd chose security over a piece of paper any day. I'm willing
> to integrate sensible things from CCAP/C2, but I haven't seen
> any convincing argument for LUID yet...

1. su to root, sudoers, etc at an increased security level should be permitted
based on luid. Thus chain compromises based on sniffed keyboard become harder.

2. if luid and setluid privileges are implemented tracking quotas becomes much
easier and more consistant.

3. The most important and elementary application which exists in almost all
luid systems I 've seen is the privilege to daemonize to depend on luid. This
is a very effective way to keep track of run-away stuff on a busy system.

Just 3 should be ebough to justify luid (who hasn't had to walk around and kill
users (or his/her own) runaway netscapes lately ;-)

[snip]

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Anton R. Ivanov
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